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Claude “Tex” McIver murder conviction overturned by Georgia Supreme Court
Posted on 7/2/22 at 10:41 am
Posted on 7/2/22 at 10:41 am
Posted on 7/2/22 at 11:28 am to Litigator
There are good attorneys and then there are great ones. Much like a cancer center, most leave broke.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 4:04 pm to Litigator
I was listening to coverage of this on WSB the other day and couldn’t help but think about how WSB sensationalized the McIver and Harris murder trials like they were a soap opera. Now both convictions have been overturned. IDK I’m not saying it’s their fault but there is a common theme here.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 10:45 am to Griffindawg
I can't believe the state even brought charges in the McIver case, based on what they could or could not prove actually happened in that car. There's only one witness, the defendent.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 7:14 pm to deeprig9
My aunt had to testify in this. She knew them well. Craziness
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:24 pm to Dawg4Life
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I was listening to coverage of this on WSB the other day and couldn’t help but think about how WSB sensationalized the McIver and Harris murder trials like they were a soap opera. Now both convictions have been overturned. IDK I’m not saying it’s their fault but there is a common theme here.
I thought both trials got sensationalized. JRH's wife stated she thought there is no way that he would have purposely murdered his son. I know people that know him and said the same thing. They proved he is a pervert and adulterer but there seems reasonable doubt he is murderer. Still I think the video camera of him going to the car after lunch is what really turned the jury and initially got the DA to go after this case. I could not grasp how McIver supposedly murdered his wife either. MO both of these were over-zealous DAs who maybe thought they could gain recognition from a high profile trial. It will be interesting to see if the defense attorneys can get a plea deal from the DA now. I can't imagine or remember when 2 high profile cases had to go back to trial.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:07 pm to agentoranj1990
Harris trial, is that the home depot hot car baby death case?
Edit- yes it was. I remember thinking that case was bullshite too.
Hopefully the next one they overturn is the officer Robert Olsen conviction. I met the cop a week before the incident, and he is an a-hole, but he should not have been convicted of what he was convicted of.
Edit- yes it was. I remember thinking that case was bullshite too.
Hopefully the next one they overturn is the officer Robert Olsen conviction. I met the cop a week before the incident, and he is an a-hole, but he should not have been convicted of what he was convicted of.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 7/22/22 at 5:33 pm to Litigator
They are going to re-try him. Litigator, is this not a double jeopardy violation?
Posted on 7/22/22 at 9:57 pm to deeprig9
No it isn't because the conviction was reversed. It’s as if the first trial never occurred.
The case will be retried without all the prejudicial evidence that was previously admitted.
The case will be retried without all the prejudicial evidence that was previously admitted.
Posted on 7/23/22 at 3:34 am to deeprig9
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There's only one witness, the defendent.
Pretty sure that a friend of theirs was driving the car. He was in the back seat and she was in the front passenger.
I remember thinking Murder was a crazy charge in this case. Seemed like an accident, but also negligence cause he shouldn’t have had the gun out falling asleep
Posted on 7/24/22 at 10:19 am to IT_Dawg
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Seemed like an accident, but also negligence cause he shouldn’t have had the gun out falling asleep
He was heavily in debt to his wife. If you study the facts of the case you’ll get the motive. It was pre-meditated.
Posted on 7/24/22 at 2:47 pm to Litigator
Litigator, Random question:
Can a lawyer simply quit and relinquish their law license in the middle of a case? I’m talking about a lawyer suddenly deciding out of the blue on a whim that they no longer want to practice law ever again and so they want to formally make it official with the bar. And specifically in the state of New Mexico.
And if that’s real, what would the process be for going about this? Thanks in advance Counselor.
Can a lawyer simply quit and relinquish their law license in the middle of a case? I’m talking about a lawyer suddenly deciding out of the blue on a whim that they no longer want to practice law ever again and so they want to formally make it official with the bar. And specifically in the state of New Mexico.
And if that’s real, what would the process be for going about this? Thanks in advance Counselor.
Posted on 7/30/22 at 2:09 pm to Jefferson Dawg
The right way to quit a case is to file a motion to withdraw and get the court to grant the motion which occurs with frequency. That way the lawyer should have good cover. Of course if it is too late in the case the court could deny the motion and the lawyer would be forced to continue representation. That would be a rarity and would only likely occur if you were in a situation where it was in the middle of a trial, etc. There are certain situations where a lawyer must ethically seek withdrawal from a case such as where continuing representation would itself violate ethical rules (such as a conflict of interest or a client advising you he is going to testify and commit perjury}.
But to your specific question I know of no reason why an attorney could not quit and surrender his law license at any point but there might be repercussions from that such as contempt or sanctions and even if he never intended to practice law again he may very well get sanctioned. And if the client suffers prejudice as a result of an attorney's walking out of the case the attorney could be sued for malpractice. This is not the way to go about getting off of a case. He should always seek to withdraw and state the reasons therefore regardless of what he ultimately intends to do.
But to your specific question I know of no reason why an attorney could not quit and surrender his law license at any point but there might be repercussions from that such as contempt or sanctions and even if he never intended to practice law again he may very well get sanctioned. And if the client suffers prejudice as a result of an attorney's walking out of the case the attorney could be sued for malpractice. This is not the way to go about getting off of a case. He should always seek to withdraw and state the reasons therefore regardless of what he ultimately intends to do.
Posted on 7/30/22 at 4:57 pm to Litigator
Thank you for the thourough and thoughtful reply Counselor. I had a hunch it was a lot more complicated than just making a phone call on a whim after horking down on some giant breakfast plate.
Must be pretty tough for you to watch movies and TV shows that try and portray your trade. I bet most everyone can relate to that actually when it comes to whatever their area(s) of expertise are
Must be pretty tough for you to watch movies and TV shows that try and portray your trade. I bet most everyone can relate to that actually when it comes to whatever their area(s) of expertise are
Posted on 7/30/22 at 5:25 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Must be pretty tough for you to watch movies and TV shows that try and portray your trade. I bet most everyone can relate to that actually when it comes to whatever their area(s) of expertise are
Like a lady calling up a logistics manager for a mis-shipped pallet and the logistics manager just asks her to hold on to it overnight.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 12:27 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Must be pretty tough for you to watch movies and TV shows that try and portray your trade.
Well it is mostly about entertainment and even as a lawyer some of my favorite legal movies/shows bear little resemblance to the real life practice of law, the Verdict being one such example which has a number of legal mistakes and flaws in it. But it was entertaining to watch and it has some real life stuff in it in addition to the flaws. I think many of these producers could use a legal consultant to at least get basic things right but I realize that is not really the point.
One of the most entertaining presentations I attended many years ago was a CLE program taught by a lawyer and he went through a number of legal themed TV shows and movies and broke them down giving a critique of the number of things legally wrong within each movie. He even wrote a book, which he gave us, to accompany the presentation and it was all really good. Many of these CLE programs we sit through are kind of dull and drab but that one was intriguing and held everyone’s attention throughout.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 7:33 pm to Litigator
Have you ever seen lawyers throw a case on purpose?
Posted on 7/31/22 at 7:49 pm to Litigator
The worst is when you see some talking head on the news try to act like they understand your trade when it’s relevant .
And then you realize that they are literally vapid vein controlled Communications major wind veins
And then you realize that they are literally vapid vein controlled Communications major wind veins
Posted on 8/2/22 at 8:58 pm to Whiznot
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Have you ever seen lawyers throw a case on purpose?
Personally I have not. Of course there are cases where mistrials occur and some of those are caused by the conduct of attorneys. In the criminal law arena there is a whole body of law that has developed that provides that if a prosecutor intentionally caused a mistrial then double jeopardy prevents a retrial. Normally in cases of a mistrial the case can be teed up for trial again.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:06 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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The worst is when you see some talking head on the news try to act like they understand your trade when it’s relevant .
I think it has a lot to do with the reporter not being very informed about the subject matter/trade. My undergraduate degree was in journalism and one of things I noticed early on is that reporters were not doing their homework in conjunction with doing a story or interview. I understand that a reporter cannot be an expert in everything but you have to have a sufficient foundation upon which to ask intelligent questions and report a meaningful and accurate story. It really takes some work to do reporting right but it seems that so many do not want to put forth that effort.
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