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A few Offense Observations...

Posted on 10/18/15 at 8:05 am
Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5549 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 8:05 am
So I watched last night and as I did I noticed a few things..

1) Lambert is truly a bad QB. He stared down is target as soon as the ball was snapped and very rarely went through his progressions. He was quick to dump it, rarely scrambled and made anything happen. Lets face it, we all hoped he would "grow up", but he isn't. Our passing game will suck against any defense with a pulse.

2) Our Offensive line is slightly above average but far from elite. They struggled ALL night. Theus...man Theus...has anyone been more disappointed with a senior LT than this guy? I am severely disappointed with the line. Even when we had Chubb, it was a struggle. So sad.

3) Our RB situation better get fixed before UF. This fricking putting Douglas in when the game is on the line is just stupid. I like the kid, but he isnt a playmaker. Where is Keith Marshall? I thought he looked good? If we truly are hinging on a white kid for theyards, why not try Turman? I mean what the frick could it hurt? Some guys simply become stars on the field.

4) Schitty...and no thats not a typo...had a absolutely retard bad game...Nothing more needs to be said...this guy is just very average

5) Finally and most importantly,we miss Conleyand Bennett a ton more than I thought. From the blocking outside to getting open for those 5-15 yarders, man we miss those guys. They bailed us out more than I realized over the passed few years.

With that said..we lose to UF, barring some crazy game.
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 8:10 am
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30541 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 8:08 am to
Agree on all points. I'm still holding out hope we can beat UF but I'm sure in 2 weeks i'll be full blown pessimistic

The play calling was beyond horrible. We basically give up on 3rd down which is why we are 125 out of 127. fricking embarrassing
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:51 am to
So, is the offense this bad because the OC can't develop a better game plan, or is the game plan this bad because there isn't a QB capable of doing more than this?
Richt supervised Bobo for years and still should be reviewing and approving the game plan with this OC. Is our QB situation really as bad as it seems to be? How in the hell could Richt not have at least one decent QB on the team?
Richt has only selected two successful QBs in his time here. Stafford and Murray. Stafford used his last two seasons simply to get ready for the draft. Murray is the only QB that gave his whole heart to Georgia.
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 10:01 am
Posted by Leghumper
Lawrenceville, Georgia
Member since Dec 2003
2330 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:55 am to
I think Richt is heavily supervising Schotty..
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17463 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:59 am to
And to think every one misses Mason and Ramsey was the savior....

Seriously, though. One would have to think that with football's version of Monteg as our QB, our game plan really can't be anything more than it is. There IS a reason Lambert came here and is starting.
Posted by HellRaisingDawg
Lake Park, Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
1585 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:00 am to
quote:

Richt has only selected two successful QBs in his time here.


Shockley was recruited by Richt...unless your implication is that Shockley wasn't successful....
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:03 am to
Shockley was recruited for 2 years before Richt was hired.
Posted by HellRaisingDawg
Lake Park, Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
1585 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:06 am to
quote:

Shockley was recruited for 2 years before Richt was hired.


Maybe, but Richt looked over the evaluation, made his own, and offered him his letter of intent.

By any standard, I'd say that Shockley belongs to Richt's recruiting legacy. IMO, of course.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36449 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:07 am to
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And to think every one misses Mason

this was so fricking obviously gonna happen that it wasnt even funny. spent all of last year telling people how much they would miss hutson this year and got blasted for it. it's really too bad he lined up with murray so much. a 2nd year of hutson would have been a great bridge to eason.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:15 am to
Richt may have recruited him, but he also put him on the bench for 4 years. And Richt said he would not have recruited Greene had he been here earlier.
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 10:16 am
Posted by HellRaisingDawg
Lake Park, Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
1585 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:22 am to
quote:


Richt may have recruited him, but he also put him on the bench for 4 years. And Richt said he would not have recruited Greene had he been here earlier.




That he did, and that was a move that I always questioned. DJ was the obvious natural talent of the two, and I can't help but wonder what would have been had he been a four year starter.

Let your condemnation ring lout and true!
Posted by hangingdawg
Member since Jul 2015
245 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 10:41 am to
quote:

So, is the offense this bad because the OC can't develop a better game plan, or is the game plan this bad because there isn't a QB capable of doing more than this?
Richt supervised Bobo for years and still should be reviewing and approving the game plan with this OC. Is our QB situation really as bad as it seems to be? How in the hell could Richt not have at least one decent QB on the team?
Richt has only selected two successful QBs in his time here. Stafford and Murray. Stafford used his last two seasons simply to get ready for the draft. Murray is the only QB that gave his whole heart to Georgia.


It's pretty obvious to me that Shotty is wasting his valuable practice time trying to build as complicated an offense as he can. This running one or two guys in after every play and using so many different sets is frustrating. I'm sure Vince Dooley is loving this 9-6 type game-- it was his forte. For me, it's like eating a sand sandwich.

Richt should demand we do some basics well before putting in the fluff. Six or eight basic plays would do.

I wonder if Parks would be our QB if he had stayed. Greene was a pretty fair QB.
Posted by TallyDawg
Florida
Member since Jul 2013
926 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:20 am to
How many QBs have we lost? Park, LeMay, anyone else?

I agree on all points in the OP. There have been times through out Bobos career here that I would scratch my head but none of them amounted to the amount of crap I saw last night.

Is it TOO many new pieces? New OC, new OL coach, new RB coach?

The thing that REALLY grinds me is that we haven't seen Bauta. So what if he can't push the ball down field... we can't push the ball down field now with Lambert. And if we do it's like playing Russian roulette. Ramsey is who I thought he was. Great arm, but just as risky as Lambert.

And Shotty? Sweet jesus is he just closing his eyes and picking a random play with his highlighter?

This is also further proof that you can never have enough stud rbs.

I don't have much, if any hope against UF. Hell, they may just shut us out. Maybe some healing and getting players back like iMac and Jenkins will help but it's going to be rough.

/soapbox
Posted by HellRaisingDawg
Lake Park, Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
1585 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:38 am to
Doing some thinking here (look out!):

As horrible a the QB play has been, can we really properly assess how our OC has performed? Lambert is terrible, and Ramsey shite the bed as soon as he come in. Shotty had no part in the recruitment of Ramsey, and bringing in Lambert reeks of desperation due to horrible circumstances at the position.

Perhaps Shotty is doing what he can with what he has? It's just a thought and, if true, not on him, but squarely on Richt and the program he built before Shot came in.

Granted, I have not seen ANYTHING to give me confidence in him moving forward, but....it's just a thought.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86441 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

A few Offense Observations...



-Why do we continue to run the read option when Lambert is no threat to keep it? I think he's kept it once, for like a 5 yard TD against vandy. Hell even if you only keep it once per game for a 1 yard gain, at least show the other team that that's an option.
-Why do we continue to run straight up the middle? With chubb that's fine, he's that kind of runner. Sony isn't. Gimme a toss sweep (have we run one all season?) some traps, pulling guards, something. Get him outside.
-Need more keith marshall
-Need more TEs, which we've all said all year
-Why no deep shots downfield? I know we attempted a post or two yesterday, but with Mitchell and Davis's speed, at least once per game we should just run a straight up go and tell them to run straight as fast as they can and bomb it. That's what we did on Reggie's TD against UT last week and it worked. Even if it's incomplete who cares, and if it's picked they're 50 yards downfield which is the same as a punt anyway.
Posted by gulfportdawg
Gulfport, Ms.
Member since Sep 2012
729 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:41 pm to
Dawgs ran wide 2-3 times, and at least 1 toss sweep. Mizzou stuffed them all.
Posted by Dawgman77
Statham
Member since Sep 2012
725 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:20 pm to
GA had 2 10 play drives, 1 12 play drive and a 16 play drive last night. they moved the ball a lot of the time. Problem was they resulted in fg attempts and not touchdowns. Against that defense, I saw some encouraging signs
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

-Why do we continue to run the read option when Lambert is no threat to keep it? I think he's kept it once, for like a 5 yard TD against vandy. Hell even if you only keep it once per game for a 1 yard gain, at least show the other team that that's an option.
-Why do we continue to run straight up the middle? With chubb that's fine, he's that kind of runner. Sony isn't. Gimme a toss sweep (have we run one all season?) some traps, pulling guards, something. Get him outside.
-Need more keith marshall
-Need more TEs, which we've all said all year
-Why no deep shots downfield? I know we attempted a post or two yesterday, but with Mitchell and Davis's speed, at least once per game we should just run a straight up go and tell them to run straight as fast as they can and bomb it. That's what we did on Reggie's TD against UT last week and it worked. Even if it's incomplete who cares, and if it's picked they're 50 yards downfield which is the same as a punt anyway.

Yesterday I wasn't able to watch the entire game, which was horrible but beside the point, and it's crazy how pretty much everyone agrees on these points. Usually when fans are mad they complain about different things or whatever but few points have become blatantly obvious

The underutilization of the TEs
The refusal to play Keith Marshall
The misuse of Sony
The fear of anything deep
Treating 3rd down like 4th down

There was a moment last night that I think has really defined our play style and really I think it shows the team/coaches demeanor. It was like 3rd and 8 and we ran an off tackle draw with Brendan frickin Douglas. It's like we call two incredibly basic plays like a dive and then a 2 yard out. Then when we don't break one we decide that, well, may as well set this punt up, and give up on 3rd. Then we have a shitty punt. Rinse & Repeat.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63897 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 6:23 pm to
I watched most of it sober.


It looked to me like we were playing conservative because we could.

We were never in a position of having to make big plays.


Had ROWK, Sony, and KMFM each broken off one of those gut runs up the middle, which generally happens at some point in the game, it's a 25 point beat down and we are all pounding our chests, and Shotty is a genius.

ETa to be more clear-
Most of the time when running up the middle it's
1 yd
2yd
1 yd
5 yd
1 yd
-1 yd
60 yards TD

We just never had the 60 yd TD.

The sad truth is that the OL just isn't getting any push, they aren't pulling well, and they aren't playing through the whistle (especially Theus).

If the OL is playing well, there's nothing wrong with the play calls.
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 6:25 pm
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 6:31 pm to
Makes you realize how big David Andrews was for the OL
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