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re: 2017 UGA Recruiting Thread (commits, offers, visits, etc.)

Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:37 pm to
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You guys are severely downplaying a degree from UGA


We're not. You can get a great education at UGA. We're just highlighting what kind of school Stanford is. Like someone already said, it's a career changer.

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and they see UGA possibly competing for a national title. Stanford won't.


What makes you so sure of this? Stanford has won 3 of the last 5 Pac 12 championships. We haven't really come close since 2012.

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That will earn him far more money than a Stanford degree.



The average career for an NFL player is between 3-6 years. Only 1.6% of college players make it to the pros.

Stanford degree is the safe bet.

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If that was the main factor, there are better schools than Stanford.


There are maybe 4 schools better than Stanford. And you could argue if there are even that many.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:42 pm to
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Yes, you are. Stanford is right there with any Ivy League school or any other university in the world.


Princeton, Harvard, Yale, University of Chicago, and Columbia are all ranked ahead of Stanford. I'd wager MIT is better as well. Stanford is six. It is a great school without question. One of the nation's best. The problem I'm having is you guys are talking about this guy like he's a Rhodes Scholar. If it's simply all about education, then Harvard would be the choice. It's not though. He wants to play football and win according to his dad. Where does he have a better chance to do that? Which school puts far more players into the NFL?

Do we even know what this kid wants to study?

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What makes you so sure of this? Stanford has won 3 of the last 5 Pac 12 championships. We haven't really come close since 2012.


There's no way of knowing and winning the PAC12 isn't difficult. His dad seems to think UGA is going to be huge due to recruiting.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 2:47 pm
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26894 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:45 pm to
US News: #3 in the world

Times Higher Education: #3 in the world

Forbes: #3 in the world

All schools at that level of elite are absolute gamechangers. Just graduating changes your life.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 2:48 pm
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
16249 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:46 pm to
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Go to the Ivy League.


No athletic scholarships.

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I'm not downplaying a Stanford degree, but give me break. If that was the main factor, there are better schools than Stanford.


I agree, but there are very, very few schools with Stanford's academics to go along with their kind of football program.

I have a degree from UGA and it has served me well, at this point in time my experience and work history is a lot more important than where I went to school. However, for a recent graduate, graduating from Stanford with a 3.0 will trump graduating from UGA with a 3.0, unless you want to work in Atlanta.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:48 pm to
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No athletic scholarships.


Really? You learn something new every day I guess.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26428 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:48 pm to
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If he is a 4 year, division one athlete with a degree from uga, he'd get an interview wherever he wanted.


Not even close and especially compared to grad school entrances as well. Make no mistake, Stanford is 10x the school UGA is academically

I love UGA and love my degree, but we don't sniff Stanford
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:50 pm to
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Stanford is 10x the school UGA is academically


Oh Lord, here we go with the hyperbole.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
16249 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:52 pm to
Yes, that statement was hyperbolic but UGA and Stanford are not in the same tier if you're ranking the schools academically. No one in the SEC is and very few in Power 5 conferences are.

Edit: I forgot about Vandy, damn it. Vandy is on Stanford's level. Power 5 schools that are also top tier, elite academic institutions: Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Notre Dame, and Vandy are about the only ones. Arguments could be made for a couple others, but not many.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26185 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:53 pm to
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There's no way of knowing and winning the PAC12 isn't difficult. His dad seems to think UGA is going to be huge due to recruiting.



No way of knowing that we haven't won a conference title since 2005 and haven't been to the championship since 2012? Jesus.

So what you're saying is he has a better chance at winning at UGA even though the PAC 12 isn't difficult?

Sorry, not following this logic.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:55 pm to
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So what you're saying is he has a better chance at winning at UGA even though the PAC 12 isn't difficult?


So you're telling me they play a better brand of football than the SEC year in and year out?

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Yes, that statement was hyperbolic but UGA and Stanford are not in the same tier if you're ranking the schools academically. No one in the SEC is and very few in Power 5 conferences are.


Never said they were, but I can't take statements like that seriously.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 2:56 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
76178 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:58 pm to
Isn't this the same party we just left this time last year with Cal and Demetrius Robertson?
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:59 pm to
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Isn't this the same party we just left this time last year with Cal and Demetrius Robertson?


Probably! I don't know why I've wasted so much energy arguing about a guy who wouldn't be among the top 10 best recruits in our class, and maybe not top 15.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 3:00 pm
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48585 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:16 pm to
And even then Stanford tends to sit above Vandy, Duke, etc

Hell, UGA is still a notch below UNC-Chapel Hill, Cal-Berkley, Michigan, Virginia, etc as public institutions go and all of those are below Stanford
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46231 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:21 pm to
Any more recruiting news?
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
16249 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:22 pm to
Notre Dame, Vandy, and NW, yes. Stanford and Duke are both rated in the top 10 in nearly every publication's list of national universities (US News has Stanford at 5 and Duke 8)... they're pretty interchangeable.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
16249 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:23 pm to
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Any more recruiting news?


No, this now a thread to discuss academics at various colleges and universities throughout the nation, compared to UGA.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26894 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:24 pm to
I would say Stanford has a slightly better reputation than Duke, but I'm nitpicking.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26185 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:26 pm to
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So you're telling me they play a better brand of football than the SEC year in and year out?



But that's not the argument we're having.

And right now I'll argue that the Pac 12 is deeper than the SEC.
Posted by GregYoureMyBoyBlue
Member since Apr 2011
2964 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:53 pm to
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I would say Stanford has a slightly better reputation than Duke, but I'm nitpicking.


As someone who has interviewed multiple candidates ranging from undergrad to MBA graduates, Stanford is top tier with the IVY leagues without question. At least that's true from a business discipline perspective. Quality of candidates is incredibly high. Second tier is Vandy, UNC, Virginia, Duke, etc. Third tier would be UGA, UF etc.

That would be my unbiased rankings of the schools at least when it comes to business acumen, interview capabilities, and ability to problem solve, which let's be honest, is all that should really be judged coming from an undergraduate institution with zero in-school, real-world business applications. And the distribution from each individual school can vary drastically. One of the best interviews i've heard was a UF grad and one of the worst was a Harvard man, so it really does come down to the candidates themselves.

Can we get back to recruiting and bitch about how Wilson, Fromm, and Swift aren't the #1-#3 recruits according to 247? What is this garbage?
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 3:55 pm
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
26653 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:06 pm to
Sounds like a great thread someone could start so the recruiting thread doesn't get cluttered up... Not directed at you Greg, just a suggestion.
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