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Posted on 12/17/16 at 6:55 pm to Chainsaw Massaquoi
Posted on 12/17/16 at 6:55 pm to Chainsaw Massaquoi
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 7:32 pm to K9
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Malzahn
Freeze
Saban
Ed
Bret
Sumlin
Mullen
Smart
Muschamp
Mason
Jones
Mcelwain
Odom
Stoops
Damn. It's crazy to think how big Richt's name would look on this schlub list. He'd be solidly at #2.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 7:39 pm to K9
Mason is a very underrated coach IMO
Posted on 12/17/16 at 7:57 pm to TMDawg
I'd still take Mullen over him.
Mason is a great defensive mind no doubt though
Mason is a great defensive mind no doubt though
Posted on 12/17/16 at 8:08 pm to K9
Gradually getting some offensive stuff together too. Lost all the players after Franklin left then lost his starting QB to med school 
What he can do with a defense is damn impressive. Kinda like how Muschamp's defenses at UF were so good even with a dog shite offense.
What he can do with a defense is damn impressive. Kinda like how Muschamp's defenses at UF were so good even with a dog shite offense.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 8:50 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Damn. It's crazy to think how big Richt's name would look on this schlub list. He'd be solidly at #2.
At best and thx to no miles and perhaps behind mcelwain and others.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:21 am to djsdawg
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Why? He was a recruiting reach. Richt wasn't such a good ol recruiter.
You don't win 10 games without being a good recruiter or an outstanding coach. According to you he was a poor recruiter and a bad coach.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:03 am to DawgsLife
So you're saying OL recruiting under Richt was successful? I think it was one of his biggest flaws by far. That's why we always have guards playing tackle, etc.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 8:39 am to DawgsLife
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You don't win 10 games without being a good recruiter or an outstanding coach
Those 10 wins was against who? One of the very few big wins against LSU he burst into tears like a punk. What kind of coaching is that?
Posted on 12/18/16 at 8:54 am to DawgsLife
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You don't win 10 games without being a good recruiter or an outstanding coach. According to you he was a poor recruiter and a bad coach
Richt was a very good recruiter. He was good at developing QBs. He was good at being the face of a franchise. He was very poor at roster management. And that circled around many different positions over the years. Offensive line and defensive back were the worst managed. He had spells where he dropped the ball at wide receiver and ILB.
Overall, he did great. But he couldn't figure out how to manage the roster. And maybe he had too much reliance on Rodney Garner for a time.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 9:00 am to meansonny
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Richt was a very good recruiter. He was good at developing QBs. He was good at being the face of a franchise.
This is the bottom line truth.
He was good at getting recruiting classes that ranked high because he got his share of star players, but he wasn't great at filling his roster's needs.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 9:42 am to BranchDawg
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He was good at getting recruiting classes that ranked high because he got his share of star players, but he wasn't great at filling his roster's needs
Even with his top 10 classes, we were continually 2nd in the East and 3rd or 4th amongst our rivals. His coaching wasn't able to separate us from the other programs that were on equal recruiting footing (smart may or may not have the same issue with recruiting peers)
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:05 am to TMDawg
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So you're saying OL recruiting under Richt was successful?
I wasn't bad.....but not nearly as bad as some would like us to believe.
However, the statement was that he was not a good recruiter. He was certainly a good recruiter. Some of the players may have gotten kicked off the team....or left....or did not develop. But he routinely got top 10 classes. Out of 130 teams, that qualifies as a good recruiter.
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I think it was one of his biggest flaws by far. That's why we always have guards playing tackle, etc.
He recruited several 4* players that were projected out to play OT. (Dyshon Sims, Pat Allan, John Theus, Kendall Baker) Now, as I said....they may not have ended up there, but they were thought of as OT's by the experts.
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 10:17 am
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:10 am to DawgRff
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Those 10 wins was against who?
We certainly didn't win 10 this year, did we? And we didn't have a tougher schedule. There are a lot of teams that do not win 10 games. Very few do.
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What kind of coaching is that?
I'm confused. Do you dislike him because he was not emotional enough or because he was too emotional? I am continually amazed at the number of people that just can't say that he was a good coach. It says nothing about Kirby Smart to give Richt his due. It was time for Richt to go. Everybody admits this. He could not get us to the next level. Hopefully Kirby can. I hope so. But Richt was an excellent coach.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:16 am to DawgsLife
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It was time for Richt to go. Everybody admits this. He could not get us to the next level. Hopefully Kirby can. I hope so. But Richt was an excellent coach.
This is true. Every sentence is true.
Eta: Early results do indicate that Kirby could be a better recruiter though.
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 10:18 am
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:22 am to meansonny
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Even with his top 10 classes, we were continually 2nd in the East
Do you mean on the field or in recruiting rankings?
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:32 am to meansonny
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Even with his top 10 classes, we were continually 2nd in the East and 3rd or 4th amongst our rivals.
No he wasn't. In the last 5 years he was here, name one SEC East coach that won the East more than him. Y'all like to bring up how he was bad the last few years.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:40 am to K9
What has he really done at Miss State? 59-42 overall with a conference record of 28-35. He's been over .500 in the conference once in eight years.
Reguar season out of conference wins by Miss State in his eight years as coach:
Jackson State(2)
MTSU(2)
Memphis(2)
Alcorn State(2)
Houston
UAB(3)
Louisiana Tech(2)
Tennessee Martin(2)
Troy(3)
South Alabama(2)
Bowling Green
Southern Miss(2)
Northwestern State
UMASS
Samford
Thats 27 of his 59 wins at Miss State. He's also beaten Kentucky or Vanderbilt 9 times as well.
Thats 36 crap wins in 8 years. He's getting spotted a little over 4 wins a season because of their schedule, and he's still only averaging a little over 7 wins in his career at Miss State, and thats including three years with probably the best player in school history at QB.
His record against top teams in the SEC:
Auburn 2-6
LSU 1-7
Florida 1-1
Alabama 0-8
Ole Miss 4-3
Georgia 1-1
Texas A&M 2-3
Reguar season out of conference wins by Miss State in his eight years as coach:
Jackson State(2)
MTSU(2)
Memphis(2)
Alcorn State(2)
Houston
UAB(3)
Louisiana Tech(2)
Tennessee Martin(2)
Troy(3)
South Alabama(2)
Bowling Green
Southern Miss(2)
Northwestern State
UMASS
Samford
Thats 27 of his 59 wins at Miss State. He's also beaten Kentucky or Vanderbilt 9 times as well.
Thats 36 crap wins in 8 years. He's getting spotted a little over 4 wins a season because of their schedule, and he's still only averaging a little over 7 wins in his career at Miss State, and thats including three years with probably the best player in school history at QB.
His record against top teams in the SEC:
Auburn 2-6
LSU 1-7
Florida 1-1
Alabama 0-8
Ole Miss 4-3
Georgia 1-1
Texas A&M 2-3
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:48 am to DawgsLife
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years he was here, name one SEC East coach that won the East more than him. Y'all like to bring up how he was bad the last few years.
2006-2015 east titles:
UF 4
Mizzou 2
UGA 2
SC 1
UT 1
Posted on 12/18/16 at 11:04 am to devils1854
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Thats 36 crap wins in 8 years. He's getting spotted a little over 4 wins a season because of their schedule, and he's still only averaging a little over 7 wins in his career at Miss State, and thats including three years with probably the best player in school history at QB.
All true, but on the other side of the coin they were playing the same type schedule and still not winning 7 games a year at MSU before he got there.
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