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Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:06 pm to djsdawg
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His was only 50% of the time involving tebow and beyond, which was from 2006-15 of richts career. Do you think it's a coincidence richt was such a better coach before tebow arrived?
That had less to do with Tebow and more to do with Meyer and Saban arriving at UF and Alabama
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:08 pm to DawgsLife
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You do know the SEC was before Tebow, right? Why don't you use 5 years. It's that round number you are so proud about, and it is a much better snap shot of where a program is headed. OR, use the entire time frame. You are just wanting to pick a time frame in which we struggled. The last 5 years we did pretty darn good. possibly better than any other time during his tenure here. 2012 we could easily have won the National Championship. His failure was he just couldn't get over that hump. Frame it any way you want, but your time frame makes no sense on any level.
1) The sec changed with tebow's arrival, and 2) so did the level of our success, both of which makes it a natural time period to explore. Because of those 2 reasons, you can't say it doesn't make sense on any level.
His failure to win the east from 06-10 and 13-15 was not even getting us to the hump. We were much better through 2005 than either subsequent 5 year period.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:14 pm to VADawg
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That had less to do with Tebow and more to do with Meyer and Saban arriving at UF and Alabama
Tebow played a big role in 2 blowout wins over richt. When urban left, Spurrier improved sc and then mizzou arrived to spoil the party with pinkel. To really piss uga fans off, uf passed richt again with a new coach in 2015.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:24 pm to djsdawg
Again I will ask you....what does it take to be considered a good coach? Not in the SEC. What would a coach have to do to be considered a good coach?
I can't wait to hear your explanation.
I can't wait to hear your explanation.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:32 pm to DawgsLife
My point is that post sec championship richt was very similar to donnan, who many don't consider good. If you think richt was good, you agree donnan was good, and I can't argue against that.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:41 pm to djsdawg
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My point is that post sec championship richt was very similar to donnan, who many don't consider good. If you think richt was good, you agree donnan was good, and I can't argue against that.
No. You said Richt was not a good recruiter, and he was not a good coach....or you at the very least insinuated it. I want to know what makes a coach good in your book? You are the one that wanted to start turning this into a Tim Tebow thing. I want you to tell me once and for all what makes a good coach in your book?
I have to go for the evening, but I'll check the thread tomorrow.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:47 pm to DawgsLife
I was basing that original post on the widely accepted idea that donnan wasn't good. Do you agree with donnan not being good? His 97-00 is a fair bar for comparison. Was that good or not? That answer will tell us if richt 06-15 or 11-15 was good or not.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:49 pm to djsdawg
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My point is that post sec championship richt was very similar to donnan,
Here we go again,NOT EVEN CLOSE.Donnan beat a grand total of ONE top 10 in 5 years and sniffed the SEC one year.
Also had losing records to UF,UT,AU and GT.Jesus this is not even open for debate but you somehow think it is.
You also mentioned earlier in the year that Petrino was a great coach,correct? Why don't you look up his record vs ranked teams on the road and get back to me.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:51 pm to djsdawg
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donnan wasn't good.
He wasn'. CMR beat more ranked teams in '14 than Donnan beat in 5.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:03 pm to RD Dawg
You always want to cherry pick just some games over whatever time period of discussion. It makes more sense to talk every game, which includes games vs ranked and unranked teams.
When we do that from 06-15 and compare to 97-00, the facts show that we won on a similar level, but had crappier rankings. It's far from the landslide you claim it is.
When we do that from 06-15 and compare to 97-00, the facts show that we won on a similar level, but had crappier rankings. It's far from the landslide you claim it is.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:10 pm to djsdawg
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some games
Some games??The ones I picked out were our most important rivals and EVERY Ga coached needs to be judged
on his record vs those teams.
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2017 Depth Chart
You always want to cherry pick
Not cherry picking at all...you are freakin OBSESSED with CMR from '06 to '15.Im taking both coaches in their entirety and it s not even close.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:40 pm to RD Dawg
You attempted to avoid losses vs unranked teams like sc 07/14, uk 06/09, UT 09, Colorado 10, and uf 10/14, which is evidence of cherry picking.
02-05 was a special period with 2 sec championships, but it was a small isolated time period surrounded by 2 periods of underachieving and not winning sec championships. That doesn't cut it at uga, so both coaches were fired for it. Kirby knows the deal, and is recruiting what might be our best class since the 90's, so let's hope it's the start to him keeping his job for decades.
02-05 was a special period with 2 sec championships, but it was a small isolated time period surrounded by 2 periods of underachieving and not winning sec championships. That doesn't cut it at uga, so both coaches were fired for it. Kirby knows the deal, and is recruiting what might be our best class since the 90's, so let's hope it's the start to him keeping his job for decades.
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:04 pm to djsdawg
I guess the admin can go ahead and anchor this thread since you queers have turned it into a beat a dead horse extravaganza.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 6:11 pm to claydawg09
Sucks when it happens, but it's a decent way to help pass the time of the boring holiday/post cfb season.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:21 pm to devils1854
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Besides the Croom era, Miss State has been pretty much what they are now, and thats a team that is usually right around .500, give or take a game. Mullen hasnt done anything that Jackie Sherrell didnt do, and Mullen has that extra non-conference game to pad his schedule
They've had their good streaks but let's not forget that Jackie was cheating worse than OM is currently.
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Mullen is a descent coach, but I wouldnt trust him at a larger program. I dont think he could elevate them like other coaches in college football today. I think he's basically Jim Grobe.
That's a fair assessment.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:55 pm to claydawg09
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turned it into a beat a dead horse extravaganza.
Sorry,not the one who's turned 3 different threads into CMR bashing...the guy just can't let it go.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 10:54 pm to RD Dawg
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Do you mean on the field or in recruiting rankings
I was referencing rankings where Uf was out recruiting us in the East very consistently. Auburn (our rival), LSU, and Bama were very consistent in recruiting. Most of the time finishing ahead of us. And then there was the rare occasion where our #10 or #12 finish would be behind Tennessee.
We can call Richt a good recruiter. Top 10-12 recruiting classes don't sound as sexy when they are #5 in the SEC.
For the most part, our results sat us as the 3rd to 5th best team in conference for a lot of recent years (again... finishing 15th in the country sounds great until you see the 2 or 4 SEC teams ahead of us)
Posted on 12/18/16 at 11:02 pm to DawgsLife
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You don't win 10 games without being a good recruiter or an outstanding coach. According to you he was a poor recruiter and a bad coach
I don't think Richt is a poor recruiter or a bad coach. But lets be real.
In 2011, we were not a good team. We lost to every good team on out schedule. We won the East. We won 10 games. But if you put another good team on our schedule... we would have lost. We were not outstandingly coached.
Missouri's 2014 team was a bad team. There is a good assumption that Florida'state 2015 team was not a good team with an outstanding coach. Their season was a lot like our 2011, except they had 1 quality win over Ole Miss. And this 2016 Florida team that won the East is worse than that one.
10 wins and division titles are not the best indicators of good these days. They are relatively better than 9 wins or 2nd in the East. But I hold 'good' to a higher standard with quality wins.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:54 am to meansonny
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I was referencing rankings where Uf was out recruiting us in the East very consistently.
Not in '11,'14,'15 or '16 (we still finish higher had CMR stayed)
When were finishing "15th in country"?
No doubt our '12 and '13 killed us and ultimately cost CMR but lets stop with 15th in country and 5th in SEC narrative.Like has been said numerous times before roster management was his big issue along OL recruiting.
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