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re: 2016 UGA Recruiting Thread (commits, offers, visits, etc.)

Posted on 2/22/16 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 5:20 pm to
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This is it. We are discussing Demetris Robertson, and which school would be his best fit and why.


Bingo. 2016 recruiting class is likely in the books. At this point it's a total crapshoot on whether DRob feels that UGA would be an elevated enough academic program to deign us with his presence... So it's come down to the merits of discussing schools academic prowess...
Posted by Croot
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 6:24 pm to
which are in no way, recruiting updates
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 7:11 pm to
Sorry if our waxings have gotten in the way of key class of 2016 recruiting updates...
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 7:27 pm to
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which are in no way, recruiting updates


Neither is bitching about it... As we've said, we were letting it rest. Get over yourself.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26184 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 8:09 pm to
Idk, I kinda wanna keep it going just to piss him off
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7461 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:03 pm to
I think Manti Teo proved that even an idiot can do well at Notre Dame. At least UGA Dawgs know whether or not they have live breathing girlfriends.
Posted by Croot
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4739 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:44 pm to
be my guest, I will not be Pisst Pisstofferson
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:58 pm to
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Pisst Pisstofferson

If this hasn't already been taken, this is a fricking great alter.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13485 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 8:04 am to
Ironically, he went to a so so college and yet became a Rhodes Scholar.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 8:21 am to
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Ironically, he went to a so so college and yet became a Rhodes Scholar.


To bring that back to the subject at hand... Kris Kristofferson went to Pomona College and indeed did become a Rhodes Scholar. Myron Rolle went on to play football at Florida State and was selected as a Rhodes Scholar.

If we return to the schools with the most academic prestige... Stanford has it by a long shot (98 winners in school history), but interestingly UGA has nearly 50% more winners than Notre Dame (23 v. 16). There are a million ways to splice data and tell a story. Notre Dame may be perceived as a superior academic institution by many, but it also goes to show that as most of us know, college is what you make of it. The big difference between a Harvard/Stanford and a UGA isn't the elite students... the top 1-3% of students at most major institutions are probably all of relatively similar intelligence, drive, etc. The real difference is in the median due to less variance from top to bottom. If the school has the course of study that you want to pursue and you have the drive, you are likely not prevented from getting to the same endpoint, it just may mean that you're doing a bit of extra legwork to get in front of the right people and make the right connections.
Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:15 am to
I think the whole basis of my initial analysis of UGA>Stanford>ND for Football is simply this...

We play in the SEC...the SEC has proven time and time again they are the best conferences in the country. I disagree 100% that the PAC 12 is a better conference, but thats going to be opinionated at best unless they can play each other more often.

Stanford is a fantastic school with a good program and DRob should go there if he can, hell I would have, but I seriously believe UGA puts better players in the NFL if Football was his primary concern (which most believe it isnt). We do have a coaching turn-over so who knows moving.

Hell ya I am biased, but as GA fan thats kind of hard.

I am surprised at some of the support for Notre Dame which has been ridiculed to no end about what a joke they have become on the football field...now they are in a better spot than UGA in Football? I'm sorry but I disagree. ND will probably never win another national title.
Posted by gatorhata9
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:26 am to
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I am surprised at some of the support for Notre Dame which has been ridiculed to no end about what a joke they have become on the football field...now they are in a better spot than UGA in Football? I'm sorry but I disagree. ND will probably never win another national title.



To be fair, that was during the pre-Kelly era. With shite hires like Weiss, Wittingham, and Davie that set them back.

Kelly has them up there, hell they were in the title game against Bama in his first or second year there. He just signed a contract extension I believe so they'll be contending more often than not.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:26 am to
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ND will probably never win another national title.

The problem isn't whether they win it or not. It's whether they're in consideration. In that realm, the lack of true conference affiliation and the schedule that they play, when they win, it usually is at least perceived as winning big. This is why they were in the playoff discussion all of last season. After losing to Alabama, we were essentially taken out of the discussion. Similarly, Stanford was sitting in that 5/6 slot or so even though they had one more loss than some of the teams behind them. In the world of what have you done for me lately, in recent memory UGA has failed to win the biggest of games. The same isn't generally said of Stanford and Notre Dame. The coaching turnover that you point to is *maybe* a win in that area, but we're fans, we expect it to be for the positive. An impartial observer just sees it as change right now, with no way to validate good/bad until seeing the product on the field.

Do I think that UGA will be more consistently relevant in football discussions over the next 10-15 years than the other two programs? Yes. But DRob is only concerned with the next 3-4.
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
26362 posts
Posted on 2/26/16 at 12:49 pm to
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The family of Demetris Robertson let it be know this morning they plan to take an official visit to Alabama this weekend. He should arrive in Tuscaloosa this afternoon. Demetris is expected to take the SAT again next weekend.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88647 posts
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:36 pm to
I'm about sick and tired of Delaytrius. This goes beyond "he's a conflicted young man still trying to decide his future" and has become "how irresponsible and shitty of a recruit can I be today?"

Just go to bama or ND and get it over with. He apparently is hell bent on not coming here and he ain't near smart enough to get into stanford.
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
Member since Nov 2012
15593 posts
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:44 pm to
Yeah no shite... This dude needs to go as far away from Georgia as he possibly can. Take your sandbaggin brotha with you...
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88647 posts
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:53 pm to
just kinda sucks that ND of all places, we'll have to face him potentially twice (likely not though) during his career.

Honestly I wish he would get into stanford but that seems a longshot.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
44779 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 3:14 pm to
Looks like we may end up getting Wasson (Kicker previously committed to Bama).
Posted by saltydawg
corn country
Member since Sep 2011
1937 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 3:37 pm to
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If we return to the schools with the most academic prestige... Stanford has it by a long shot (98 winners in school history), but interestingly UGA has nearly 50% more winners than Notre Dame (23 v. 16). There are a million ways to splice data and tell a story. Notre Dame may be perceived as a superior academic institution by many, but it also goes to show that as most of us know, college is what you make of it. The big difference between a Harvard/Stanford and a UGA isn't the elite students... the top 1-3% of students at most major institutions are probably all of relatively similar intelligence, drive, etc. The real difference is in the median due to less variance from top to bottom. If the school has the course of study that you want to pursue and you have the drive, you are likely not prevented from getting to the same endpoint, it just may mean that you're doing a bit of extra legwork to get in front of the right people and make the right connections.



I think you understate the extent to which a Harvard/Yale/Stanford network can get you in the door for major scholarships. It's exponentially easier to get major academic awards coming out there than coming out of UGA or Notre Dame (which, in the grand scheme of things, are close to academic peers). There will be former Rhodes scholars on faculty, multiple advisors who are intimately familiar with the nominating process, and whatever academic support you need.

As an aside, the top 1-3% of UGA and the top 1-3% of Harvard have very little overlap in my experience. The top handful of students at UGA could compete at Harvard or Stanford, but the difference in quality is clear as soon as you're outside of the top handful. And the difference becomes exponentially more pronounced once you move further down the class rankings.

P.S. This discussion is pretty irrelevant since DRob is clearly no rocket scientist (doesn't Stanford require only an 1100 SAT score to qualify academically?). But it's the offseason, so why not.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/1/16 at 3:47 pm to
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doesn't Stanford require only an 1100 SAT score to qualify academically?


Wanna say it's something like 1600
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