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re: 2015 UGA recruiting thread (commits, offers, etc)

Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:27 am to
Posted by LedDawgK
GA
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:27 am to
let's hope he doesn't have the weakest hamstring on the planet like Rumph
Posted by DawgsLife
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:28 am to
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4.32 shuttle isn't too bad so it seems he's more quick than fast. Probably a good redzone and possession guy versus a burner deep threat..


At 6'5" I would think he would be a GREAT red zone target, and you don't HAVE to be a burner once in the red zone. But 4.7? I HAVE to believe somebody input the time incorrectly.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:29 am to
Hell, my old arse can run a 4.7...
Posted by LedDawgK
GA
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:30 am to
I think you are correct about something being typo'd. Lawrence Cager Hudl

4.5 on here and I know it's not official but I would be inclined to believe a 4* would be a 4.5
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62033 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:31 am to
I ran a 4.8 back in 1974, and was considered fairly fast. I remember when a kid was timed at 4.5 and everybody thought it was insanely fast. Now? Insanely average! Maybe a little faster than average, but not eye poppingly fast like it was then.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62033 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:32 am to
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I think you are correct about something being typo'd. Lawrence Cager Hudl

4.5 on here and I know it's not official but I would be inclined to believe a 4* would be a 4.5



EXACTLY! Nice catch!
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:34 am to
4.7 is solid for a kid that big and lanky
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:34 am to
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WR position - I predict the Dawgs are gonna try to drop Chigbu for Brandon Singleton

Why would we do that?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62033 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:34 am to
If he can put 20-30 more lbs on without losing the speed he could be a monster.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62033 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:36 am to
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4.7 is solid for a kid that big and lanky



I was wondering about that, so I looked at some oher kids tha size and most were in the 4.4-4.5 range. Anyway, it appears as if he MIGHT be in the 4.5 range, too. I'm sure the coaches will time him, regardless.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:40 am to
"I don't know how many yards or how many receptions I have exactly. I had eight receiving touchdowns through 10 games. I felt like my speed really improved from last season because I have always had size and been physical, but I run a 4.5 now."

Lawrence Cager:

LINK
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:40 am to
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I was wondering about that, so I looked at some oher kids tha size and most were in the 4.4-4.5 range.

Yeah, that's what they report, but they aren't actually that fast. HS coaches' hand timing aren't exactly reliable.

Christian Owens said he ran a 4.5 iirc, and he'd struggle to break 5.0 based on his film
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62033 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:43 am to
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Yeah, that's what they report, but they aren't actually that fast. HS coaches' hand timing aren't exactly reliable.

Christian Owens said he ran a 4.5 iirc, and he'd struggle to break 5.0 based on his film



That's true. Coaches tend to fudge on times and size.
Posted by history88
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:43 am to
Y'all make to big of a deal about 40 times. There are so many tricks and everybody teaches it different. It is not a representation of how a kid can play or how fast he can play.

I understand its a barometer to determine someone's overall explosion rate but it doesn't translate. Bryan Evans was a 4.3 guy supposedly and he might have been the worst DB in the CMR era.

A lot of times 40 times aren't accurate. They said a fat Matthew Stafford ran a 4.7 out of high school and at the Combine he ran a 4.81. How does he get slower? Hell Tom Brady ran a 5.2 and Jerry Rice ran a 4.71.
Posted by LedDawgK
GA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:44 am to
Don't bother with him Crow..he's just stirring up shite. Chigbu is all Dawg.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:47 am to
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Rumph's spot


Is he going to disappear, too?

Jonathon Rumph is the receiver Georgia needs but not the one available to play right now. So we'll offer this other kid. Because he can take it.
Posted by Chris_topher
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:48 am to
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he's just stirring up shite

Not true.. only thing holding back Singleton is enuff space on the roster.. Dawgs put out
feelers to Will Bryan and Dante Wigley also

This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 8:00 am
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:51 am to
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Don't bother with him Crow..he's just stirring up shite


Typical chrissy
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62033 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:56 am to
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Y'all make to big of a deal about 40 times. There are so many tricks and everybody teaches it different. It is not a representation of how a kid can play or how fast he can play.

I understand its a barometer to determine someone's overall explosion rate but it doesn't translate. Bryan Evans was a 4.3 guy supposedly and he might have been the worst DB in the CMR era.

A lot of times 40 times aren't accurate. They said a fat Matthew Stafford ran a 4.7 out of high school and at the Combine he ran a 4.81. How does he get slower? Hell Tom Brady ran a 5.2 and Jerry Rice ran a 4.71.



While true, times a re a piece of the puzzle. If a kid is a scorcher but has bad hands who wants him? However, if a kid is slow and can't get separation it is a problem, too. It all fits together....times, route running, hands, size...they are all important, but none tell the whole story.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
16263 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 8:41 am to
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Now? Insanely average! Maybe a little faster than average, but not eye poppingly fast like it was then


To be fair, most kids who are "clocked" now-days at at 4.2, 4.3, 4.4 are all done so by hand and it's wildly inaccurate. The same kids when timed with a laser end up in the 4.6-4.7 range, which is still considered NFL-type speed. Remember when everyone was going nuts years ago because Vance Cuff was timed at 4.2 and Cornelius Washington was 270 lbs and timed at 4.35? Yeah, hand timed. Washington was clocked around 4.6 at the combine (still freakishly fast for a dude that size).
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