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re: Would you support the Aggie Dance Team on the sidelines at football games

Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:53 pm to
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there's a reason you don't concentrate all your leaders into one subset of the group.


Last I checked the yell leaders keep the entire student section engaged. They don't just camp out in front of the corps.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:56 pm to
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Very much doubt this

More likely they'll pick out whoever is good looking that is sitting in the first few rows. Why? B/c its easier than hunting for a cadet somewhere in there.



TV wants cadet shots, TV will get cadet shots. It's not difficult to zero in on khaki in a maroon crowd

And again, the OD's are right there. Go back and watch old TV footage of Aggie games. What I described is exactly what happened

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it was fun for you and a few buddies.




More concrete than you making it seem like cadets will just disappear from the camera lenses because they're not sitting together

Sorry Corps Block irks y'all your reasoning is silly tho.

Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:01 pm to
Oh look, this debate again

This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:02 pm to
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TV wants cadet shots, TV will get cadet shots. It's not difficult to zero in on khaki in a maroon crowd


The problem with your reasoning is you assume TV will always want cadet shots.

That is not the case. They want quick and easy shots of the crowd. That's it.

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And again, the OD's are right there. Go back and watch old TV footage of Aggie games. What I described is exactly what happened


I've done this many a time since my parents used to record everything and while there are cadet shots there are a wide variety of Aggies being shown in the pre block days. Cadet shots were nowhere near as prevalent.


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More concrete than you making it seem like cadets will just disappear from the camera lenses because they're not sitting together


Nobody is saying they will vanish. We are saying that they would no longer be so heavily featured to the point that it's vast majority of what gets shown thus giving outsiders a much more representative view of the A&M student body.
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:04 pm to
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Last I checked the yell leaders keep the entire student section engaged. They don't just camp out in front of the corps.



The YLs just lead the yells. And they're good for that purpose. But when they're just waving their towels and yelling "AAAAAAAA", they have no effect on the crowd. Crowd noise is infectious. A fan is much more likely to be vocal when others around him are yelling and screaming. The YLs can yell their lungs out, but no one in the 2nd, much less 3rd deck will hear them. A handful of YLs hundreds of feet away isn't going to have nearly the effect that you'd see if you have motivated CTs yelling from the "seat" right next to you.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45270 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:09 pm to
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Would you support the Aggie Dance Team on the sidelines at football games

No opinion on it at all.
I could probably be talked into either side of the coin.
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Additionally, what about corps block being dispersed?

Whatever the Corps as a whole voted on, I'd support.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:09 pm to
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The problem with your reasoning is you assume TV will always want cadet shots


That's because they do.

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They want quick and easy shots of the crowd. That's it.



Incorrect. They want to find things that make venues unique. Cadets are unusual in the cfb landscape. Therefore TV will always want copious shots of them. And it not like that just suddenly started with the advent of corps block, either. Been going on long before that. Trying to make it about TV is lazy.

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while there are cadet shots there are a wide variety of Aggies being shown in the pre block days.


There are a ton of non cadet shots now, too. Y'all just get your knickers in a twist when y'all see the block

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they would no longer be so heavily featured


Incorrect. Get rid of cadets/band going to games in uniform and the shots will stop. Anything else is just hatred for corps block, which quite frankly is hilarious.




Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:11 pm to
Whatever the Corps voted on is irrelevant.

BG Ramirez makes the decision and the cadets shut up and color. That's how the military works. The Soldiers get a vote, but once the Commander makes a decision, it's final.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:11 pm to
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The "reasons" for dispersing corps block that I see trotted out are silly, though.


Sez you, youngster. There's nothing silly about it. Right or wrong, the only interaction I had with civilian pukes in 4 years outside of a few classmates was during sporting events.

Ask your dad for his opinion, then shut up.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:11 pm to
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A fan is much more likely to be vocal when others around him are yelling and screaming. The YLs can yell their lungs out, but no one in the 2nd, much less 3rd deck will hear them. A handful of YLs hundreds of feet away isn't going to have nearly the effect that you'd see if you have motivated CTs yelling from the "seat" right next to you.



I think you're underselling the 12th Man. They bring it whether they have a CT next to them or not (conversely, cadets don't always bring it). 2nd/3rd deck gets live af.

Breaking up corps block isn't going to have an effect on student body participation.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:12 pm to
Watch the broadcast of the 1985 t.u. game.

Now watch any broadcast of a home game at Kyle between 1997-2014 and tell me that the number of cadet shots are the same or fewer.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:14 pm to
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Ask your dad for his opinion, then shut up.


He thinks corps block is badass

He also know TAMU is different now.

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the only interaction I had with civilian pukes in 4 years outside of a few classmates was during sporting events.



The corps isn't like that anymore. Cadets who "major in the corps" or don't integrate off the quad are frowned upon.

This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 1:15 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:16 pm to
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I could probably be talked into either side of the coin.


The funny thing is, this is about as big a deal as the whole "bevel" debate. Which is to say "not much."

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:16 pm to
It was "frowned upon" when I was there almost 20 years ago too. Didn't change the outcome much.

As far as "not integrating off the quad", there's FAR more "khaki on khaki" fraternization now than there was when I was in school. In fact, the Standard was deliberately changed to omit the statement "for purposes of fraternization, the Aggie Band is considered one unit".
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45270 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:19 pm to
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Whatever the Corps voted on is irrelevant.

BG Ramirez makes the decision and the cadets shut up and color. That's how the military works. The Soldiers get a vote, but once the Commander makes a decision, it's final.

Ok.
Then whatever BG Ramirez decided upon, I'd support.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:21 pm to
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It was "frowned upon" when I was there almost 20 years ago too. Didn't change the outcome much.


Then y'all were bad cadets. When I was there we actually went off the quad and mixed during the week because we were better Aggies and generally perfect (class of '10 )in every way

J/k.

I gotta get back to work. I look forward to more hand wringing from y'all over CB later. Don't disappoint me
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:29 pm to
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He thinks corps block is badass


Liar!

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The corps isn't like that anymore.


So... they're basically pussies, then.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:33 pm to
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Yeah, they'd just pick cadets out of the crowd for close ups. Same difference.



Not really. Those cadets picked out will be surrounded by regulars.

The corps block and tvleads to beliefs like you have to be in the corps to go to A&M. It makes a small minority look like a majority.

I agree they would focus on the band instead as the new corps block, but that is a good thing as many of them have their hands full so they can't squeeze anything on camera.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:31 pm to
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I think you're underselling the 12th Man. They bring it whether they have a CT next to them or not (conversely, cadets don't always bring it). 2nd/3rd deck gets live af.

Breaking up corps block isn't going to have an effect on student body participation.


It's possible I overestimate the enthusiasm of the corps, but I disagree that I'm underselling the 12th Man. We just are not anywhere as loud as I remember us being in the past.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:41 pm to
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We just are not anywhere as loud as I remember us being in the past.


We romanticize the past. Every former student has said that. If it were true the 12th Man would be mute by now.
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