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Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:05 pm to
Posted by Tecate
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

I'm older AND wiser than you


Negatory on at least one of the statements. I don't claim wisdom.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:17 pm to
Gotcha. Well holler at me if you wanna catch a game and a beer one weekend. I'm from there and come home once or twice a month.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:14 am to
Names I like so far for A&M OC

Kevin Wilson
Holgo
Doug Meachem

Names I don't like
Major Applewhite
Sonny Cumbie

Names I don't know shite about but have seen mentioned
Noel Mazzone

You can frick right off
Bob Stitt
George Whitfield
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 8:15 am
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:21 am to
If we can pay 1M, let's go get Meacham.


I don't think Sumlin can get that kind of budget though. Not after this season
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:23 am to
Meachem would probably be my first choice. All three of those that I like would be very pricey (and two aren't even available right now). I am very interested to see what we want to spend on an OC because I feel like we want to protect ourselves on buyouts since the OC would go with Sumlin
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:29 am to
Yep. Replacing a coordinator to save your own skin rarely works out, but Sumlin did just that last year so I have more confidence in him than most to find the right man.

I know what Sumlin was thinking when he hired spav. Spav is by far the best recruiter on this team. He has brought us household names at QB and WR, and Sumlin needed an elite recruiter badly as Beaty was not going to be around forever.

And that's the unknown - Sumlin MUST have a top recruiter at OC or we are doomed in the long term.

Speaking of which Beaty is never going to make it at Kansas although it's doubtful he would consider a return until he was actually out at Kansas.
Posted by TexasAg13
San Antonio de Béxar
Member since Jul 2013
5815 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:30 am to
quote:

George Whitfield


Someone has mentioned this
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:32 am to
Someone on Premium started a thread. I legit wanted to post a flaccid penis as the first response. I hate our fans sometimes

I think it was CO-OC that doesn't call plays and QB coach, but still. I had an aneurysm
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 8:33 am
Posted by TexasAg13
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:35 am to
I think a big sticking point for me in this search is someone who will stay here for at least two years. Is it worth going out and getting a super hot name if they leave for a HC gig after year one? We need stability.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:36 am to
We need to for sure axe McKinney and get an ace recruiter as RB coach. That's always a spot you see top recruiters at on staff.

Meacham has coached OL, QB and WRs. I'm pretty sure Wilsons background is all OL and I know Holgo has coached QBs (thinking as far as where our other openings would be on staff)
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 8:39 am
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:39 am to


If you have your AARP card then yes you are older

And I was only kidding about the wiser


But


Big Red is still awesome
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:41 am to
Yeah that may be the answer. Sumlin has always had a lot of loyalty to McKinney.

A family member of mine is in the coaching world. Used to work for Slocum at A&M, coached for Briles at UH. I remember when McKinney was our OC for a brief stint, my family coach said he was absolutely shocked. He had worked on a staff with McKinney and was just shocked. I thought that was very telling.

But Sumlin has nevertheless been loyal to McKinney even though he doesn't really fit with what we are trying to do.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:42 am to
Yeah, and I could see Holgorsen getting another HC gig if he's fired at WVU.

We need to choose a direction and go with it

Keep going toward more power and run based:
Wilson
Mazzone

And probably keep Christensen as OL coach

Go back to full blown air raid
Holgo
Meacham
Posted by TexasAg13
San Antonio de Béxar
Member since Jul 2013
5815 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:51 am to
I like the supposed direction we were going with Christensen. If we can get the personnel, it obviously will make our offensive scheme a lot more balanced. Not sure you can consistently win in this league passing the ball 80% of the time.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55224 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:57 am to
Interesting Briles vs Sumlin thread on Texags right now

It's easy to forget Briles early years at Baylor, and a poster also pointed out (which I am sure we haven't forgotten) that Briles only has really had success without Nebraska, Colorado, and A&M in the conference.

Briles

2008- 4-8
2009 - 4-8
2010 - 7-5
2011 - 10-3
2012 - 7-5


Sumlin (in a much more difficult conference)

11-2
9-4
8-5
Projected 2015 if we handle Vandy is 8-4 + bowl


Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:00 am to
The trendy pick right now seems to be Noel Mazzone (UCLA OC, whose contract runs out at the end of the year)
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55224 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:06 am to
I'm thinking our staff payroll jumps to epic levels this year

What's the most anyone is paying for a OC you ask? Can Cameron for LSU at 1.5 mm

This will be the LAST time but Sumlin will be allowed to spend whatever it takes to get an elite guy in the fold.
But he will be allowed to do it.
Posted by Tecate
Member since Nov 2012
1000 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:15 am to
quote:

If you have your AMAC card then yes you are older


Fixed it for you. And yes, I've had one for 10 years.
Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
2618 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:24 am to
Why did McKinney hang around after being demoted back to just running backs? I always thought that was weird.

Agree that we need someone who can run plays and scheme well, but also recruits well. Basically the only positive thing you can say about spav is he has gotten high star players to come to A&M. Don't know if that's a product of him being younger and connecting better with high schoolers or what, but he certainly can't call plays or develop talent.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55224 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:31 am to
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