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The dirty little secret none of our fans want to talk about...
Posted on 9/18/15 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 9/18/15 at 10:50 pm
Arizona State appears to be bad...really bad. Like 5th in the Pac-12 South bad.
Tied with an FCS school in the 4th last week and getting outgained by New Mexico (3-9 ladt year) tonight.
Yuck
Tied with an FCS school in the 4th last week and getting outgained by New Mexico (3-9 ladt year) tonight.
Yuck
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Posted on 9/18/15 at 10:52 pm to Roger Klarvin
Yeah. We might need to hold up on the hype...
Posted on 9/18/15 at 10:54 pm to SwaggerCopter
At least their defense looks decent, but man, Bercovici and the o-line are dogs.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 11:11 pm to Roger Klarvin
It's not a secret. One game doesn't mean much, but two in a row is a smoking gun.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 11:12 pm to Roger Klarvin
Yep, I still think this aggie team is an 8 win team (before bowl). With a +/- 1 game swing.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 11:39 pm to Roger Klarvin
They weren't really that great last season either.
Let's closely examine their 10 wins:
Weber State (FCS)
New Mexico (4-8)
Colorado (2-10)
USC (9-4)
Stanford (8-5)
Washington (8-6)
Utah (9-4)
Notre Dame (8-5)
Washington State (3-9)
Duke (9-4)
They lost to UCLA (10-3), Arizona (10-4), and Oregon State (5-7)
This year, they replace Stanford with Cal, and Oregon State with Oregon, likely turning a 7-8 win season into a 5 win season.
As I type this, Bercovici connects for a 93-yard TD to put ASU up 31-10.
Let's closely examine their 10 wins:
Weber State (FCS)
New Mexico (4-8)
Colorado (2-10)
USC (9-4)
Stanford (8-5)
Washington (8-6)
Utah (9-4)
Notre Dame (8-5)
Washington State (3-9)
Duke (9-4)
They lost to UCLA (10-3), Arizona (10-4), and Oregon State (5-7)
This year, they replace Stanford with Cal, and Oregon State with Oregon, likely turning a 7-8 win season into a 5 win season.
As I type this, Bercovici connects for a 93-yard TD to put ASU up 31-10.
This post was edited on 9/18/15 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 9/19/15 at 12:04 am to CGSC Lobotomy
They're definitely not that great, but we still beat them by 3 TDs and gave up less than 20 points. Don't really care who we play, if we give up less than 20 points, I feel much better about things after last year.
Posted on 9/19/15 at 1:20 am to Roger Klarvin
Still a W
Posted on 9/19/15 at 2:10 am to Captain Crown
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Still a W
Yep, and ASU winning 34-10 makes the thread moot anyway.
Many Aggies are understandably gunshy after last year's big start, but the big start is about all the two teams have in common.
Posted on 9/19/15 at 5:33 am to Roger Klarvin
ESPN will still hold onto the Pac12 South being tied for the best division. Bunch of cocksuckers they are. Regardless, you guys had an impressive victory over them
Posted on 9/19/15 at 6:52 am to Roger Klarvin
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Arizona State appears to be bad...really bad.
They're not a top 20 team like the were ranked preseason, but they'll likely be a middle of the back 7-9 win team which is still a nice win. Its not like it was a nail biter. We pulled away after looking really sloppy.
Posted on 9/19/15 at 7:21 am to Roger Klarvin
I still think we are two weeks away from getting any type of true context
Posted on 9/19/15 at 7:30 am to WestCoastAg
I'm not sure that it's a "secret" that Arizona State is not a great team. The Ags exposed them in the opening game and showed their playoff hype to be just that.
Their passing game is just not what it was last year. I guess Jaelen Strong had alot to do with that.
Their passing game is just not what it was last year. I guess Jaelen Strong had alot to do with that.
Posted on 9/19/15 at 7:30 am to Roger Klarvin
Eh, they're bad but I looked at that game not for the score but the mentality of going into a big game on defense.
We did more damage to them than we did to any Div II/FCS opponent in the last 2 years.
We are going to give up big plays on offense there's no way we improved to a top 10 defense overnight. But defense is improved and their defense was a quality test for our offense.
We did more damage to them than we did to any Div II/FCS opponent in the last 2 years.
We are going to give up big plays on offense there's no way we improved to a top 10 defense overnight. But defense is improved and their defense was a quality test for our offense.
Posted on 9/19/15 at 7:34 am to Warrior Poet
I think they also have a good running back who was diagnosed with mononucleosis on the eve of our game. No idea when he is expected to return.
Posted on 9/19/15 at 7:44 am to Roger Klarvin
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Arizona State appears to be bad...really bad. Like 5th in the Pac-12 South bad.
It is not a secret
Every year the PAC comes up with a flavor of the month they hype as the next thing to sliced bread. This year it was the Sun Devils in the rotation and just like the past they will burst into a ball of flames by the seasons end.
I have been playing the Sun Devil win down from the start just because of this.
Posted on 9/19/15 at 8:02 am to Roger Klarvin
Neutral site game
Power 5 team
Strong defense
First game of year with all the bugs to still work out of new defense
It was a quality win
Power 5 team
Strong defense
First game of year with all the bugs to still work out of new defense
It was a quality win
Posted on 9/19/15 at 8:38 am to PhilipMarlowe
that sounds about right.
i was thinking 9 wins before bowl game.
wins
asu
ballst
nevada
sc
vandy
wku
split 3-3
ark
msstate
bama
om
auburn
lsu
i think arky, state and auburn are there for the taking.
if we can beat the teams we should and take one from bama, om and lsu we could have a ten win season before bowl games.
i think we need to go 9-3 to keep recruiting up this year. have momentum for next year.
i was thinking 9 wins before bowl game.
wins
asu
ballst
nevada
sc
vandy
wku
split 3-3
ark
msstate
bama
om
auburn
lsu
i think arky, state and auburn are there for the taking.
if we can beat the teams we should and take one from bama, om and lsu we could have a ten win season before bowl games.
i think we need to go 9-3 to keep recruiting up this year. have momentum for next year.
Posted on 9/19/15 at 8:40 am to agalloch
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we still beat them by 3 TDs and gave up less than 20 points. Don't really care who we play, if we give up less than 20 points, I feel much better about things after last year.
This is where I come down on it.
I mean, we gave up 28 to what turned out to be a very bad SC game last year. And it should have been 35 if not for Armani Watts' hit.
Defense is something that can be replicated more easily week to week than O, and Chavis' D set the tone. Got to build off of that, though.
Posted on 9/19/15 at 9:03 am to Roger Klarvin
I said 9-3 before the year and I haven't changed my tune yet. That said I hate playing the transitive property game. It would be much more concerning if they had lost one of these games
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