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re: Frost to Nebraska 7 years $35 million
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:11 pm to Dr RC
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:11 pm to Dr RC
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I wouldn't like that as an NU fan if he was the only guy they actually talked to
You do realize Jimmy Sexton reps all these guys right? So he knows EXACTLY who we are interested in and how much it would take to get them. Technically speaking, we talked to a lot of guys (through Sexton) and we decided that we wanted to hone in on Jimbo.
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:12 pm to Dr RC
You’re drunk, go home baw
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:12 pm to Mr. Elvert
Nah he's just trolling
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:12 pm to Dr RC
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Is this were the results after 8 years, where we never won the natty but made it to the playoffs, won the conference 1 or maybe 2 times, is the contract worth it to you or not. Serious question.
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Is this were the results after 8 years, where we never won the natty but made it to the playoffs, won the conference 1 or maybe 2 times, is the contract worth it to you or not. Serious question.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:13 pm to Dr RC
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This time the buddy was the AD instead of a BMA. Big whoop.
And the coach was top-5 in the country, a fact you keep conveniently ignoring.
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We would have had a natty had we joined the ACC in 2012 instead of the SEC.
FSU was better than the LSU team that beat us in 2012, so probably not.
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On top of that, as the ACC improved Jimbo stopped winning it.
4 ACC teams finished ranked in 2013 including #8 Clemson, 5 finished ranked in 2014 including three in the top-15.
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:14 pm to Warrior Poet
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I really don't know how to explain to you that younare wrong and that the athletic department has calculated their risk and know they can afford it.
The fact that you are assuming we will have the money needed to buy him out if he is a bust is foolish.
There are plenty of reasons to worry it won't be there. ESPN is bleeding subscribers reducing money made by the SECN. The giant TV deal bubble is about to pop so it's dangerous to expect a new deal that will be equal or greater that what we have now. Oil could drop like a rock again.
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at the idea we will pay him to go away until it gets down to the last 2 or 3 years of that deal. Not gonna happen.Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:15 pm to Dr RC
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Yes. Much.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:16 pm to Dr RC
We already know we have the money. When the athletic department asks the question "how much money do we have," they are not answering in the present. They are answering at variable times in the future because we budget 5 years in advance on a quarterly/annual basis.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:19 pm to Warrior Poet
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Is this were the results after 8 years, where we never won the natty but made it to the playoffs, won the conference 1 or maybe 2 times, is the contract worth it to you or not. Serious question.
Two conference titles and no natty?
Nope.
Sorry but when you are paid as a national title winning coach you better win national titles at the school writing those checks.
Period.
Anyone here saying otherwise is crazy. He was brought here to win a national title. He is being paid like he already won one here. He isn't getting paid $75 million for 10 win seasons. If he can't win it all the hire is a failure.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:21 pm to Dr RC
Do you really think our TV money is what we are banking on? Or that the price of oil determines whether we have enough money to accomplish our strategic goals? We don't contract based on expected and uncertain revenue bud we are a fricking regulated entity
Oh and here's a quote from the 2017 foundation report
Oh and here's a quote from the 2017 foundation report
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Despite market volatility and a difficult few years in the oil and gas sectors, the Foundation provided $90.8 million to the university in fiscal year 2017.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:22 pm to Warrior Poet
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We already know we have the money. When the athletic department asks the question "how much money do we have," they are not answering in the present. They are answering at variable times in the future because we budget 5 years in advance on a quarterly/annual basis.
No, we assume we will still have the money in the future. Again, many things could happen that change that. Bad investments, collapse of sports bubble, market fluctuations...
Never mind that planning for 5 years out doesn't help much when its a 10 year fully guaranteed deal.
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:22 pm to Dr RC
Then you are out of your mind.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:24 pm to Dr RC
Dude, I really don't want to call you a dumb frick and be rude to another Ag but you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not telling you this as someone who reads articles on the internet, I'm telling you this as someone who legally represents government entities among other things in the state of Texas. You. Are. Wrong.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:24 pm to Dr RC
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Yes. Much.
I don't think you guys have stopped to think about how badly this could screw us if he doesn't work out. I really don't.
Screw us how? You're assuming that we won't be able to afford a buyout. But after 6 years (which is what Sumlin got), his buyout should be very manageable.
If Arkansas can come up with 11.8 million to buy out Bielema, then we can come up with 30 Million, especially if we negotiate a payment plan.
You're overreacting. We rich.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:24 pm to Dr RC
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and no natty?
Nope.
Sorry but when you are paid as a national title winning coach you better win national titles at the school writing those checks.
Period.
Anyone here saying otherwise is crazy. He was brought here to win a national title. He is being paid like he already won one here. He isn't getting paid $75 million for 10 win seasons. If he can't win it all the hire is a failure.
You're just playing contrarian at this point
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:28 pm to Warrior Poet
Hey, like I said, bookmark this if you want.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:30 pm to Roger Klarvin
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You're just playing contrarian at this point
No on that point. Nope. Again, if he paid as a natty winning coach he needs to win one.
Two conference titles aint gonna cut it. You're lying to yourself if you think any of you will believe that once the post coitus glow from landing Jimbo fades.
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:30 pm to Roger Klarvin
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and no natty?
Nope.
Sorry but when you are paid as a national title winning coach you better win national titles at the school writing those checks.
Period.
Anyone here saying otherwise is crazy. He was brought here to win a national title. He is being paid like he already won one here. He isn't getting paid $75 million for 10 win seasons. If he can't win it all the hire is a failure.
You're just playing contrarian at this point
Haha yep, this post did him in. We've successfully poked holes in everyone of his arguments. So he just tries to hit the reset button by making sweeping generalized declarations hoping people will accept them as facts.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:31 pm to Dr RC
What you're talking about isn't a "let's see in 5 years if you're right." I am telling you that you do not fully understand how our budgets are made or what kinds of legal restrictions are placed on us in terms of our ability to contract.
You can't contract for 75M if you don't already have it. There's no speculation about it.
You can't contract for 75M if you don't already have it. There's no speculation about it.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:32 pm to WestCoastAg
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Nah he's just trolling
This is what I was just about to post.
I think DrRC is trying to take a dig at CGSC and his ‘extend sumlin’ threads/posts by constantly beating that same drum, albeit to a different tune?
RC you’ve been too rational a poster to get this worked up over this hire. I share some of your concerns related to the length of the contract, but Poet did a nice job explaining a lot of that. Is there something personal with Fisher that’s causing this?
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