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re: Friend in the AD just sent me this text (Spav/Murray)

Posted on 10/25/15 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by TexasAg13
San Antonio de Béxar
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/25/15 at 3:53 pm to
One of my best friends played live music there every Thursday night, so a bunch of us would go grab a drink and support him
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 3:53 pm to
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Gotcha, seems like he needs some help then.




While I've had occasion to run into a few players, I've yet to bump into a coach. Yeah its cryptic but you oughta be able to figure it out and stay shut up about it.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 3:54 pm to
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One of my best friends played live music there every Thursday night, so a bunch of us would go grab a drink and support him




just busting your balls, I don't care how you spend your student loan
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:00 pm to
I've definitely personally run into multiple players drunk in public.

One of our d-linemen from the late Sherman era got a ride home from me and he couldn't even hold his head up.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:02 pm to
Think about what I posted and who I am for a second and you'll put it together, if you do just keep it to yourself.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:18 pm to
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Think about what I posted and who I am for a second and you'll put it together, if you do just keep it to yourself.
Are you Batman?!

EDIT: Also a clip of our coach getting drunk at a hotel, during the offseason, filmed on a potato quality camera, is nowhere near Sark getting liquored up while addressing the school with TV cameras everywhere
This post was edited on 10/25/15 at 4:19 pm
Posted by Bubbles Up
Member since Jul 2011
2910 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:21 pm to
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Yep. Firing Spav will have significant recruiting consequences.


Not if he sucks as an OC and we replace him and have success.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:22 pm to
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Are you Batman?!




Nah, just a garden variety recovered alcoholic.
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
9094 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:41 pm to
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So I've been trying to find out everything I can and I want to be careful to deal in what I actually know to be true (as opposed to hearsay of any kind). From there, I want to offer up my take on the situation as it stands at quarterback. Per several sources and as reported by our colleague John Lopez, there was an incident during last week's Alabama game in which true freshman quarterback Kyler Murray had a brief exchange with OC Jake Spavital, not a heated confrontation, mind you, but an exchange of words. Early in the week, Murray reportedly apologized to his teammates and coaches. During practices leading up to Saturday's game at Ole Miss, Jake Hubenak got the majority of the second-team reps in favor of Murray. I have yet to confirm whether or not Murray was actually 'suspended' for the game against the Rebels or simply suited up and on the sidelines as the third-team signal-caller. I'm going to assume (and have been told by more than one source) that he was simply relegated to third-team status for the game and, frankly, it's tough to imagine any reason he'd be on the team plane to Oxford outside of worrying about perception to have him suited up on the sidelines if there was zero chance of Murray playing. I don't believe that's Sumlin's MO since we have (all too) recent history to go on here. Last year, Kenny Hill was suspended and did not suit up for either ULM or Auburn, nor was he present on the sidelines at Auburn. So on the surface, Murray could have been serving some sort of punishment or was moved down the depth chart in favor of Hubenak for the simple fact that the Ags wanted to see what the JC transfer could do if given the call. At this point, I'm not sure the reasoning matters because it's what happens this Saturday and beyond that will resonate in the short- and long-term. The real matter at hand is what has become a messy quarterback situation and where things are heading at the position. How Kevin Sumlin handles this moving forward will be a defining moment in his A&M tenure and will have repercussions - good or bad - that extend well beyond the final six games of this season. Let me start by saying this: If what I've gathered is true and Murray was in the doghouse, the fact that he apologized and served whatever form of punishment was handed down (if any at all) means that whatever happened during the Alabama game should be put to bed. It's a learning experience and you start fresh. Period. So Sumlin and Spavital have three options at quarterback heading into a must-win three-game homestand that starts Saturday with South Carolina and also includes a rapidly-improving Auburn team in two weeks. After watching Allen struggle so mightily and in so many areas each of the past two Saturdays, it's tough to imagine the Aggies not at least giving one of their other two talented signal-callers an extended chance to show what they can do. I'm not saying Saturday night's abysmal showing in Oxford is the end of Kyle Allen's time as the starting quarterback at A&M but things were so bad at the position against Alabama and Ole Miss that Allen is either hurt more than he's letting on (an admirable trait but still a detriment to both himself and the team if it's affecting his play) or perhaps sitting and watching may be what he needs to settle down and, if he returns to action, just go out, relax and play football again. The list of successful (as in eventual) NFL quarterbacks that have been through similar situations early in their college careers is long and distinguished. Do you open things up completely and make it a three-way competition or allow Hubenak and Murray to battle it out this week? At this point in the season, there probably aren't enough reps to go around to conduct a fair three-man fight for the job. Considering the next two are at home, your starter's confidence looks shattered and your offense has produced two touchdowns in the last 10 quarters of SEC football, now would seem like as good a time as any to figure out if there's a better option. My proposed solution is a simpler one. Give Murray his shot with the 1s and make it a legitimate opportunity to show what he can do. Allen has had 11 games to prove himself. Hubenak can run the offense and is a much better player than folks seem to realize. Still, the bottom-line is that Kyler Murray is a special talent who brings something to the table that neither Allen nor Hubenak offer: He's able to create, make plays on the fly and put pressure on opposing defenders and DCs. He can improvise and is a game-changing running threat which is exactly what the Aggies need considering protection has been so unbelievably bad since the start of the season and since the offense still doesn't have a ground game that commands any real respect from the opposition. Has Murray looked like anything special thus far? Outside of a couple of scrambles against Arizona State and Arkansas, no, he hasn't. However, he also hasn't seen much of anything in the way of first-team reps since fall camp and I've been pretty vocal about his playing time being mishandled from the starts, calling for a more definitive PT formula. The true freshman playing with the shortest of leashes was never going to be the best recipe for early success, for neither Murray nor the team. Drastic times call for drastic measures, and everyone inside the program knows that Kyler is a gifted offensive playmaker who is still raw and devoid of any meaningful experience. In other words, it's not likely to be smooth sailing from the get-go but the down-the-road payoff could be tremendous. Unlike the past two years, the Aggies finally have a defense to step up and help keep some of the pressure off of a freshman under center, something that becomes especially true when you take a look at the next four games on the schedule.


Liucci on QB situation. With his program mouthpiece rep, does this mean Kyler gets first team reps and the start vs SC
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 4:54 pm to
Holy wall of text Batman
Posted by swaggyp
Member since Jan 2015
895 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 5:14 pm to
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does this mean Kyler gets first team reps and the start vs SC


I sure hope so
Posted by greenbastard
Parts Unkown
Member since Feb 2014
2740 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 5:14 pm to
Oh god! This train wreck is a bigger wreck than the one in Corsicana!

That's what we get for making fun of that jibe stutering midget in Austin.

I hope someone hires away Sumlin.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 5:24 pm to
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Liucci on QB situation. With his program mouthpiece rep, does this mean Kyler gets first team reps and the start vs SC




You want honest, ok if KM gets the start then there better be a back up plan. KM is talented but he is not ready physically, he's going to get hit and hit hard so I hope whatever they do they keep Hubeneck or Allen (if he can go) ready and in game shape. Don't get me wrong I like KM but he needed at least a year to develop and I don't know if he'll ever be great at this level. We needed him to keep some guys in the fold but if it wasn't for that I wouldn't have been very upset if he'd done what he wanted to do and gone to tu. Honestly I don't think it matters who's at qb with this disjointed offense we are running I don't feel anyone can be successful.
Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
2828 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 5:34 pm to
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I've definitely personally run into multiple players drunk in public.

One of our d-linemen from the late Sherman era got a ride home from me and he couldn't even hold his head up.


Spencer Nealy? Dude was wasted every single weekend (and some week days) his career at A&M. Had a buddy walk in on him puking his guts out somewhere on NG. Funny dude though....
Posted by greenbastard
Parts Unkown
Member since Feb 2014
2740 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 5:47 pm to
Wasn't he drunk during the Mississippi State game at Kyle Field?!
Posted by PowerTool
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Member since Dec 2009
22823 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 5:56 pm to
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quote:
Think about what I posted and who I am for a second and you'll put it together, if you do just keep it to yourself.
Are you Batman?!


No, he's a bullshitter on a message board who always claims to have inside info after the fact.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 5:59 pm to
No I don't claim to have a damn thing. I've run into players at meetings but never a coach is all I'm saying you dolt.



As to inside info yeah I have some, someone in my family is part of the AD but hey you keep on keeping on.
This post was edited on 10/25/15 at 6:01 pm
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21643 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 6:02 pm to
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Don't get me wrong I like KM


Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
61929 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 6:08 pm to
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No, he's a bullshiteter on a message board who always claims to have inside info after the fact.




Seriously? I've never seen Agforlife behave like you are suggesting. He is credible in my book.
Posted by ISEN_AG
ThunderWolf Manor
Member since Aug 2013
2270 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 6:14 pm to
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Seriously? I've never seen Agforlife behave like you are suggesting. He is credible in my book.


Support. He's good people.
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