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Friend in the AD just sent me this text (Spav/Murray)

Posted on 10/24/15 at 9:49 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 9:49 pm
I asked him about the rumor going around Twitter about their fight:

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Since its out there now I'll go ahead and tell you. They got in a fight after Murray's INT against Bama, Murray said you only ever play me when we are doing bad and don't give me a chance to succeed. Murray was very heated and more or less said he'd never play for him again and stormed off. One of them definitely won't be here next year and it sounds like Sumlin is gonna run the bus right over Spav, it's BAD.
This post was edited on 10/24/15 at 9:50 pm
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
7956 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 9:51 pm to
Murray is more important than Spav, so makes sense this is coming



And I completely agree with Kyler. I said this last week - we need to give him a chance to get into a rhythm. He is a high/low player like Manziel and needs a few possessions to be evaluated.
This post was edited on 10/24/15 at 9:52 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79992 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 9:52 pm to
Not only should Spavital be fired, but he should return his salary.
Posted by Ash'sProstheticHand
Member since Nov 2012
1146 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 9:54 pm to
Spav sucks and needs to go, but Murray needs to get ahold of his ego. He's had a few flashy runs, but other than that he's done exactly jack shite at the college level. He's averaging just over a 50% completion rate and 5.4ypa. He's missed a lot of wide open guys by throwing passes into the turf. That's lousy and figuring he's owed something is a bunch of bullshite.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 9:55 pm to
Problem is we lose Martell if we fire Spav. I was hoping we could just demote him but I don't see how you can at this point.
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
7956 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 9:56 pm to
Yep. Firing Spav will have significant recruiting consequences.
Posted by Ash'sProstheticHand
Member since Nov 2012
1146 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 9:58 pm to
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Problem is we lose Martell if we fire Spav. I was hoping we could just demote him but I don't see how you can at this point.


Bummer, but ultimately this doesn't matter. Lots of OCs have run successful offenses without Martell. Spavital has never run a good offense with any QB.
Posted by swaggyp
Member since Jan 2015
895 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:10 pm to
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Bummer, but ultimately this doesn't matter. Lots of OCs have run successful offenses without Martell. Spavital has never run a good offense with any QB.


THIS. Man, I was worried about the recruiting impacts as well but now I can see that Im a dumbarse for that. Spav has to go
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79992 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:12 pm to
Chavis was worth far more than Malik Jefferson.

A good OC is worth far more than a 2017 recruit.
Posted by AgBQ00
Member since Aug 2014
2022 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:13 pm to
Yep. The Holgerson arm of the spread hunh needs to be eradicated from our offense
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:14 pm to
Sumlin is full of shite in his post game PV
Posted by Ash'sProstheticHand
Member since Nov 2012
1146 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:26 pm to
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Yep. The Holgerson arm of the spread hunh needs to be eradicated from our offense


You have a better eye than I do. I don't see any arm of any system in our offense
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50254 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:27 pm to
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Sumlin is full of shite in his post game PV
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55224 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

Chavis was worth far more than Malik Jefferson. A good OC is worth far more than a 2017 recruit.



Bingo



And don't think that another 8-4 year doesn't damage recruiting too
Posted by Intheheartoftexas
Aggieland
Member since Dec 2013
102 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:28 pm to
This:

Chavis was worth far more than Malik Jefferson.

A good OC is worth far more than a 2017 recruit.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
13897 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:32 pm to
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Murray said you only ever play me when we are doing bad and don't give me a chance to succeed.


Well, he isn't wrong. He's a competitive guy that wants to be a QB, not a gadget play.
Posted by Ash'sProstheticHand
Member since Nov 2012
1146 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:36 pm to
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Well, he isn't wrong. He's a competitive guy that wants to be a QB, not a gadget play.


Then he should learn to fricking throw. He's put a lot of passes into the dirt and both of his picks were completely avoidable, but he somehow didn't notice deep safety help.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:37 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/24/15 at 10:41 pm
Posted by gvwheeler
Member since Oct 2013
740 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:38 pm to
I agree, but it could be much more than one recruit. Garrett and Lindsey for starters
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:38 pm to
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Then he should learn to fricking throw.



Yep, this isn't high school anymore and he's not the best player on the field. He needs to shut up and learn and quit listening to his dad tell him how great he is and learn whatever this offense we are failing to run is.


Oh and Spav needs to go, tonight would be ok.
This post was edited on 10/24/15 at 10:40 pm
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