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Current A&M offensive linemen and their ratings
Posted on 10/13/19 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 10/13/19 at 4:12 pm
Starters in bold
2016 Class
JR - Kellen Dietsch 0.9519 rating, 4 star
JR - Riley Anderson 0.8621 rating, 3 star
SR - Colton Prater 0.8383 rating, 3 star
JR - Ryan McCollum 0.8293 rating, 3 star
2017 Class
SO - Grayson Reed 0.9103 rating, 4 star
JR - Dan Moore 0.8532 rating, 3 star
JR - Jared Hocker 0.8453 rating, 3 star
JR - Carson Green 0.8381 rating, 3 star
2018 Class
FR - Colten Blanton 0.9370, 4 star
FR - Tank Jenkins 0.9083, 4 star
FR - Luke Matthews 0.8914, 4 star
FR - Bart Clement 0.8891, 3 star
2019 Class
FR - Kenyon Green 0.9926, 5 star
FR - Layden Robinson 0.8850, 3 star
FR - Blake Trainor 0.8642, 3 star
Can someone tell me how the lowest rated players from both our 2016 and 2017 class (the 5 lowest-rated OL on our roster overall) have the majority of the starts and playing time?
2016 Class
JR - Kellen Dietsch 0.9519 rating, 4 star
JR - Riley Anderson 0.8621 rating, 3 star
SR - Colton Prater 0.8383 rating, 3 star
JR - Ryan McCollum 0.8293 rating, 3 star
2017 Class
SO - Grayson Reed 0.9103 rating, 4 star
JR - Dan Moore 0.8532 rating, 3 star
JR - Jared Hocker 0.8453 rating, 3 star
JR - Carson Green 0.8381 rating, 3 star
2018 Class
FR - Colten Blanton 0.9370, 4 star
FR - Tank Jenkins 0.9083, 4 star
FR - Luke Matthews 0.8914, 4 star
FR - Bart Clement 0.8891, 3 star
2019 Class
FR - Kenyon Green 0.9926, 5 star
FR - Layden Robinson 0.8850, 3 star
FR - Blake Trainor 0.8642, 3 star
Can someone tell me how the lowest rated players from both our 2016 and 2017 class (the 5 lowest-rated OL on our roster overall) have the majority of the starts and playing time?
This post was edited on 10/13/19 at 4:16 pm
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 4:30 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Because they have the most experience.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 6:36 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I’ve been super disappointed in Dietsch, was such a big get for us and he hasn’t done anything on campus.
Hopefully one of the 2018 class guys will step up. Plenty of 4 stars in that one
Hopefully one of the 2018 class guys will step up. Plenty of 4 stars in that one
Posted on 10/13/19 at 8:00 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
3 stars work harder.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 4:40 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Can someone tell me how the lowest rated players from both our 2016 and 2017 class (the 5 lowest-rated OL on our roster overall) have the majority of the starts and playing time?
Recruiting ratings for OL usually suck.
And our line last year featured almost all the same guys and it was anchored by the lowest rated OL from the 2015 class, so there's something going on besides "we're starting our lowest rated guys and that's why our OL is trash"
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 10/14/19 at 4:53 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
It's not necessarily bad OL play. It's defenses stacking the box, EXPECTING us to establish the run, when we have no TE threat for whom they must account and no Mond scramble threat for whom they must place a spy.
Defenses are disguising coverage to look benign, but they are ALL selling out to stop the run.
Defenses are disguising coverage to look benign, but they are ALL selling out to stop the run.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 4:56 pm to NanosTacoRun
McCoy was higher rater than 3 of our current starters.
Lanfear and Sutherland were higher rated than all but Kenyon Green and Kellen Dietsch.
Try again.
Lanfear and Sutherland were higher rated than all but Kenyon Green and Kellen Dietsch.
Try again.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:34 pm to NanosTacoRun
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Try what again?
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And our line last year featured almost all the same guys and it was anchored by the lowest rated OL from the 2015 class
2018 Offensive Line:
LT - Dan Moore
LG - Keaton Sutherland
C - Erik McCoy
RG - Connor Lanfear (when he wasn't hurt)
RT - Carson Green
An offensive line coach worth his salary would have Prater 5th string behind McCollum, Matthews, Clement and Robinson. There's a reason he didn't crack anywhere near the 2-deep in 2017 or 2018 and was benched 2 games into the 2016 season.
Are you seriously telling me that, between the 2018 season (when Ryan McCollum was McCoy's backup) and 2019 that Prater all of a sudden got SO MUCH BETTER that he was starter material?!
Posted on 10/14/19 at 9:32 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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An offensive line coach worth his salary would have Prater 5th string
Jim Turner played Prater in 35 of the 38 games he was available
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There's a reason he didn't crack anywhere near the 2-deep in 2017 or 2018
He played in 23 of 26 games in 2017 and 2018
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and was benched 2 games into the 2016 season.
Prater started 12 games in 2016
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:27 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Prater knows the offense and blocking assignments better, which from a center is more valuable than the minor skill/strength difference between him and McCollum.
Next year we’re likely going to move Kenyon to tackle, Green or Moore to guard and Matthews will start at center. It’ll look something like:
Moore
Green
Matthews
Hocker
Kenyon
Next year we’re likely going to move Kenyon to tackle, Green or Moore to guard and Matthews will start at center. It’ll look something like:
Moore
Green
Matthews
Hocker
Kenyon
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:14 pm to Roger Klarvin
Moore needs to move to guard.
Ideally, this would be my 2-deep next season:
LT - Kenyon Green (SO)
LG - Dan Moore (SR)
C - Luke Matthews (RS-SO)
RG - Tank Jenkins (RS-SO)
RT - Carson Green (SR)
I am NOT sold on Jared Hocker. He frequently misses his assignment, then runs his mouth in interviews.
2nd team for 2020 should be:
LT - Blake Trainor (RS-FR)
LG - Layden Robinson (RS-FR)
C - Ryan McCollum (RS-SR)
RG - Jared Hocker (SR)
RT - Bart Clement (RS-SO)
Ideally, this would be my 2-deep next season:
LT - Kenyon Green (SO)
LG - Dan Moore (SR)
C - Luke Matthews (RS-SO)
RG - Tank Jenkins (RS-SO)
RT - Carson Green (SR)
I am NOT sold on Jared Hocker. He frequently misses his assignment, then runs his mouth in interviews.
2nd team for 2020 should be:
LT - Blake Trainor (RS-FR)
LG - Layden Robinson (RS-FR)
C - Ryan McCollum (RS-SR)
RG - Jared Hocker (SR)
RT - Bart Clement (RS-SO)
Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:07 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Carson Green has been garbage this year. If he is back at RT next year, yikes
Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:13 pm to NanosTacoRun
The right side of the line (Greenx2) has not been bad compared to the other three.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:18 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Except at the margins, OL rankings mean d1ck. You think the d-bags at Rivals, 247, or Texags know anything about OLine play. Or have any idea what they're looking at in these camps?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:25 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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The right side of the line (Greenx2) has not been bad compared to the other three.
Tallest midgets
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:52 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Moore needs to move to guard.
Moore plays more like a tackle than Green, he plays high with better lateral movement than power. He’s not a great tackle by any stretch, but he is not a guard. Green is a better blocker but doesn’t do well in space at all.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:40 am to NanosTacoRun
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Carson Green has been garbage this year. If he is back at RT next year, yikes
He has been terrible all year but against Bama he took it to a new low. He was driven backwards time after time into the backfield. No idea how he is starting at this level.
Posted on 10/19/19 at 8:47 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Prater knows the offense and blocking assignments better, which from a center is more valuable than the minor skill/strength difference between him and McCollum.
I'd like to point out that our only touchdown tonight was when Prater was on the bench and McCollum was at center.
Prater comes back in and proceeds to commit a holding penalty.
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