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re: 2015 Recruiting Discussion

Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:01 am to
Posted by Mars United
Your momma’s house
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:01 am to
I think our first season in the SEC really clouded a lot of people's judgement when it comes to their expectations on where we should be right now.
Posted by swaggyp
Member since Jan 2015
895 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:02 am to
Yall give the 2016 thread some love. We should be getting a good commit tomorrow. If Sumlins not resting then neither are we
Posted by Asian Sensation
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2014
742 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:04 am to
Hamm posted that it's probably not happening. Apparently, the recruit needs more time.
Posted by Mars United
Your momma’s house
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:04 am to
I'm going to wait on that until we actually get a #yessir tomorrow.
Posted by dead money
kyle, tx
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:08 am to
That guy on 24/7 is a whiny little bitch who can't be satisfied. He and a few others have this imagination that prompts them to spew rhetoric that Sumlin isn't allowed to make mistakes. It's comical and annoying simply because anybody can play Monday morning quarterback after the big game. Do I believe our approach in certain recruiting situations could have been handled better? Of course, but unless you can gift wrap an actual crystal ball and a Saban voodoo doll, I am actually very grateful of the class we put together. It's top notch, and they will all be great future Aggies.
Posted by gvwheeler
Member since Oct 2013
765 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:14 am to
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that personally cost us an EE stud RB to OU

Does anyone have any details on this (or is it more fiction than fact)? I assume the reference is to Anderson. I knew Rodney when he was just a kid. I kind of lost touch after his family moved to Katy, but I closely followed Rodney's career. I wondered why he decommitted from us, but didn't want to ask the family while recruitment was in progress.
Posted by greenbastard
Parts Unkown
Member since Feb 2014
2740 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:16 am to
Never thought I'd see the day when we complained about a top 12 class.

And for those crying about not being a good enough class, y'all fail to realize that there is a very small gap in the level of talent from #2 to #13. One more 3 star recruit would have shot us up into the top 10. Sumlin knows what he is doing. So he missed on a CB...so what?! No coach is perfect and had you told me back in December that we would only lose Malik, I'd be happy.

But nope, we just have to have something to fricking cry about.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46657 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:19 am to
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You're acting like Saban has a hard job when it comes to recruiting for Alabama


I'm saying he is the greatest recruiter in the history of college football, not that it's difficult to recruit well at Bama. Nobody has ever recruited this well anywhere however.
Posted by Mars United
Your momma’s house
Member since Jun 2014
2927 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:20 am to
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Never thought I'd see the day when we complained about a top 12 class.


BAS is a debilitating disease for some people.
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 12:27 am
Posted by Mars United
Your momma’s house
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:24 am to
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Nobody has ever recruited this well anywhere however.


Recruiting as we know it has only been around for about a decade so there is no way of knowing that.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46657 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:26 am to
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The homerun hire who wins a natty in the first 3-4 years is such an infinitesimal chance, you might as well wait to get struck by lightning.


All but three national championship coaches in the BCS/playoff era won their first within four years of being at that school. Bob Stoops, Larry Coker, Jim Tressel, Les Miles, Urban Meyer (twice), Pete Carroll, Saban (twice), Gene Chizik, and Jimbo Fisher. The only exceptions were Phil Fulmer, Bobby Bowden and Mack Brown.

So actually, history says if you don't win one quickly you probably never will in this era of CFB. Most coaches who don't win big early either flame out or fall into coaching purgatory where they win 8-10 a year but never get over the hump and things become stagnant.
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 12:30 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134050 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:28 am to
I think people get a little overexcited and think that we'll land every recruit that has us in his top3, and flip errbody on top of that

You're gonna miss some. Even if you play it perfectly. Because you're recruiting teens, and nobody has ever batted close to 1.000 in this game, anyways.

Just keep raking in solid classes and reduce the number of guys who flip FROM you, and we'll be just fine. When you're this close to the front of the national recruiting class, the differences in talent are so minuscule, it really comes down to how you use what you have.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46657 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:28 am to
quote:

Recruiting as we know it has only been around for about a decade so there is no way of knowing that.


Subjective class rankings have existed since the early 80s. It's not like people didn't know what a good high school prospect looked like before Rivals went online.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34678 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:29 am to
Good choice Mack

LINK
Posted by greenbastard
Parts Unkown
Member since Feb 2014
2740 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:31 am to
quote:

That guy on 24/7 is a whiny little bitch who can't be satisfied. He and a few others have this imagination that prompts them to spew rhetoric that Sumlin isn't allowed to make mistakes.

Kinda like when the rumor came out that Clarence McKinney and his wife were huge cannabis users and that he was a bad influence on our players. I may be one of the biggest McKinney haters out there, but even I laughed at that stupid rumor. People are just trying too damn hard to connect dots against people they hate.

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Do I believe our approach in certain recruiting situations could have been handled better? Of course

Well, I don't. What he did may not have worked this year with Sheffield and Boyd but damn it, it has worked this year and for the past couple of years. I wouldn't want Sumlin to have done it any other way. His style of recruitment works very well. There is just no guaranteed method of getting ALL HS kids to like you. Each year we will probably turn off a couple of kids like Boyd and Hill, but we will also charm prized recruits like Mack, Noil, and RSJ.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46657 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:32 am to
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Never thought I'd see the day when we complained about a top 12 class.


We aren't in the Big XII anymore.

The 12th ranked class was good enough for 4th in the division and 7th in the conference. Will you be ok with regularly being the 7th best team in the SEC? Because if not then your acceptance of our current ranking as good enough is inconsistent.
Posted by Mars United
Your momma’s house
Member since Jun 2014
2927 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:36 am to
Larry Coker had the kids Butch Davis brought in to help him win that championship then he immediately fell off the planet after they left and Gene Chizik has Cam Newton to thank for his Championship ring.
Posted by Balls_Deep
DFW
Member since Jan 2015
41 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:42 am to
Not a flame, but what's your point with the whole Saban is the greatest ever messege?

Yeah he's an all time great. It's a perfect storm of events that's led Bama to this magical run. They can still be beaten by one of about a dozen schools like tOSU who recruit on a high level
Posted by Balls_Deep
DFW
Member since Jan 2015
41 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:52 am to
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We aren't in the Big XII anymore.

The 12th ranked class was good enough for 4th in the division and 7th in the conference. Will you be ok with regularly being the 7th best team in the SEC? Because if not then your acceptance of our current ranking as good enough is inconsistent.



Agree. The old Aggie way of thinking was always short sighted. This is a different opportunity than anything ever granted to A&M before. There's about 15-20 schools at any one point in time that have a chance to win a title and we have a shot to enter that grouping for the first time ever. LSU is who we need to knock off to become a yearly contender. Beat them on and off the field and #2 in the SECw echelon is good enough for playoff consideration.

We've been owned by OU, Texas, and LSU for years. This is a real opportunity to steal some of their power. That's why this is so important to get right. There's a vacuum in this region we need to step up and fill
Posted by Mars United
Your momma’s house
Member since Jun 2014
2927 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:52 am to
One were sixth not seventh in the SEC, two Ole Miss and Mississippi State made access bowls this year despite having traditionally subpar recruiting classes and three we are a Roquan Smith away from being 8th in the rankings.
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