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re: Who will challenge A&M for the #1 class in '15?
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:34 am to VermilionTiger
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:34 am to VermilionTiger
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Who's the last "pre season #1" to fall as much as he has?
You mean when he fell from 1 to 1?
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:34 am to VermilionTiger
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Trey thinks Alabama has the best player in the country, when in fact, he's not even the best at his own position
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:36 am to DWag215
Lets hope Garrett performs like Manziel and Evans did against LSU during his own career 
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:40 am to VermilionTiger
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Lets hope Garrett performs like Manziel and Evans did against LSU during his own career
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:50 am to TideWarrior
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Charlie Strong will start the process after that probably 5 or 6 teams easily will be ahead of the aggies.
Charlie strong??
You mean the guy that lost the entire DL class and then proceeded to lose its best defensive player to Sumlin in a matter of 2 weeks while simultaneously whiffing on flipping a an A&M DB.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:54 am to MMB5DAP
I don't think Strong will do all that well..but you can't hold any of those things against him.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:57 am to VermilionTiger
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I don't think Strong will do all that well..but you can't hold any of those things against him.
Why not? When Sumlin was hired he flipped a 5 star WR from Texas and a 4 star DB from OU in a month.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:59 am to MMB5DAP
A&M also had the luxury of offering the SEC.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:00 pm to VermilionTiger
Exactly and if Strong can do well at UT, and he should be able to, he will challenge aTm for recruits in Texas. Not sure why aggie fans seem to think they are headed into the right direction. They went from being 11-2 to 9-4 with the best player in the country on the team both years.
Recruits can buy into all they want but when they see the product on the field post JFF the class may not end up so well. I see at least 4 losses on the aggie schedule maybe 6 this coming season. If you think your class will hold together you are crazy.
Recruits can buy into all they want but when they see the product on the field post JFF the class may not end up so well. I see at least 4 losses on the aggie schedule maybe 6 this coming season. If you think your class will hold together you are crazy.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:07 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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A&M also had the luxury of offering the SEC.
Ok?
That's a luxury we still have.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:08 pm to DWag215
When comparing a new coach's first recruiting class...
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:09 pm to TideWarrior
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Not sure why aggie fans seem to think they are headed into the right direction.
Probably because our roster is getting better and better by the year.
Just a hunch.
[quote]They went from being 11-2 to 9-4 with the best player in the country on the team both years.
Something that wouldn't have happened with a better defensive roster.
Is it really so hard to understand?
Poor thing.
Just a hunch.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:10 pm to DWag215
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Something that wouldn't have happened with a better defensive roster.
A&M will never have a good defense. It isn't just talent that's lacking.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:13 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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When comparing a new coach's first recruiting class...
I'm trying to follow you here.
You're saying the SEC move should be attributed to Sumlin's early recruiting success. Ok. I agree.
Strong also has Austin, a rich history, the Texas brand, and his own reputation for fielding stellar defenses.
So are you saying that even an allegedly good recruiter can't use these factors to land studs in his first class?
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:14 pm to DWag215
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Nothing in my OP implies the number 1 class is far and away better than the number 5 class.
What? No, MY post states that it is.
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So in the OP I'm simply asking who will challenge A&M for the 2015 recruiting hype title. That's all.
Right, and when you were called out about claiming the same nonsense too early last year, you went to the "but we are at #5" excuse.
And, as I said, in the rankings, which you yourself chose as the measuring stick when you started this thread, #1 is FAR ahead of #5 this year.
Now, you want to switch to the, "But who's to say which class is really better. We're meeting needs." etc. etc. argument, which is fine, as another argument. But you can't have your cake and eat it too.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:15 pm to Teague
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It isn't just talent that's lacking.
Tell me.
I need to know about this particularized knowledge you have concerning our defensive staff.
It must be profound. You've managed to determine A&M will never have a good defensive because of it.
I must know more.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:16 pm to DWag215
Ask LSU
They were gonna be the best class in the history of recruiting in 2014
Didn't quite work out in the end
They were gonna be the best class in the history of recruiting in 2014
Didn't quite work out in the end
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:26 pm to DWag215
i think it would be safer to assume that in any given year bama is going to have the top class and people will be challenging them for #1
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:28 pm to Teague
Ok let's clean this up.
Here's the point I'm making regarding last year's discussion: Looking back, it wasn't unreasonable to suggest A&M might finish with the top class. This is because A&M will finish with the 5th ranked class. Thus, it's silly to dismiss this conversation by pointing to last year's. In the latter, we suggested A&M might end up with the very best class. In reality, it instead became one of the very best. We missed the mark but not by a whole hell of a lot.
That's all I meant.
Now to address the discussion that has splintered off from the original. In any given year, there isn't a discernible, tangible difference between number one and five. The same is true for this year. You argue to the contrary but don't explain why. I assume you're basing it on the gap in the overall point total. But what I'm saying is that regardless of that gap, there's still not a real, concrete difference between number one and five. Assuming both classes address their respective program's needs, then both classes will provide essentially the same opportunity for success. This is because both classes are elite.
Here's the point I'm making regarding last year's discussion: Looking back, it wasn't unreasonable to suggest A&M might finish with the top class. This is because A&M will finish with the 5th ranked class. Thus, it's silly to dismiss this conversation by pointing to last year's. In the latter, we suggested A&M might end up with the very best class. In reality, it instead became one of the very best. We missed the mark but not by a whole hell of a lot.
That's all I meant.
Now to address the discussion that has splintered off from the original. In any given year, there isn't a discernible, tangible difference between number one and five. The same is true for this year. You argue to the contrary but don't explain why. I assume you're basing it on the gap in the overall point total. But what I'm saying is that regardless of that gap, there's still not a real, concrete difference between number one and five. Assuming both classes address their respective program's needs, then both classes will provide essentially the same opportunity for success. This is because both classes are elite.
This post was edited on 1/30/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:31 pm to DWag215
If UF wins more 7 or more next year, UF will challenge. The state is loaded with blue chippers next year. More so than usual.
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