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re: OU lands 2021 5 star Brock Vandergriff from Georgia

Posted on 6/26/19 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
11910 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 12:21 pm to
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No offense Georgia fans but your staff knows jack crap about qbs.


This is bs. When Kirby took over, we had Bailey Hockman committed as the QB of the future. He was quickly processed for Jake Fromm.

I do agree that Oklahoma and Clemson are a cut above in QB production, however.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 12:27 pm to
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You have shitty offenses. Nobody talks about SEC offensive ingenuity because it doesn't exist. Just deal with it.

lol Riley must be a shite HC then because UGA put up huge numbers on OU. Not sure why an OU fan is trash talking UGA when UGA is undefeated against OU.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10911 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 12:35 pm to
You put up numbers against the worst defense in the country run by a staff that have all been removed. So did everybody else. Weeeeee.....
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23106 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 12:39 pm to
Where's the evidence that Lincoln redshirts his QBs or likes to do so? There isn't any
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10911 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 12:43 pm to
Lincoln Riley says so himself. Rattler is redshirting and so will Vandagriff. That's the end of the story.
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2046 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:05 pm to
OU defense is still shitty
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10911 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:16 pm to
For now.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:50 pm to
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You put up numbers against the worst defense in the country run by a staff that have all been removed. So did everybody else. Weeeeee.....

Or maybe Kirby is just better than Riley. One coach made adjustments at halftime and one couldn’t.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23106 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 3:12 pm to
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Lincoln Riley says so himself. Rattler is redshirting and so will Vandagriff. That's the end of the story.



Yea, as I said, you have no idea if this will happen or not. Riley hasn't redshirted a QB who ended up getting gametime at any point in his Sooners coaching career.

He said it because every coach would rather RS their QBs if they are able to. If Hurts tears an ACL in week 2 (god forbid injuries suck) Rattler will redshirt for sure still. Got it
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10911 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 3:13 pm to
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One coach made adjustments at halftime and one couldn’t.


Correct. He didn't have the staff to do so. That's why he fired them.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10911 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 3:29 pm to
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Riley hasn't redshirted a QB who ended up getting gametime at any point in his Sooners coaching career.


So? He has never recruited a QB the likes of Rattler or Vandagriff before in his career either until now.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 3:29 pm to
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Yea, as I said, you have no idea if this will happen or not

ding ding ding... everyone has a plan until they get hit in the mouth.

At this point, what Riley says has little to no bearing on what he will or may have to do in this particular arena, because he simply doesn't have a track record to point to... I am curious if they continue to get their QBs via transfer if he starts to develop a Gus Malzahn "can't develop a QB out of HS" perception, or if he'll get a free pass due to the high level of development he'll have shown with transfers...
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10911 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 3:35 pm to
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because he simply doesn't have a track record to point to...




So far he has taken two transfers other schools weren't able to do anything with and turn them into Heisman QBs and #1 overall draft picks, back to back. No track record huh?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32777 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 5:23 pm to
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Correct. He didn't have the staff to do so. That's why he fired them.


He didn’t fire himself. His offense got dominated after half time adjustments were made.
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 5:33 pm to
A. Martinez?

Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 5:46 pm to
I realize reading comprehension is difficult and may not be taught at OU, or even an entrance requirement... But out here in the real world, there's something called context...

Like: "what he will or may have to do in this particular arena"

He has no specific track record of how he will handle quality incoming freshman QBs and whether or not redshirting them is what he'll do...



ETA: ... It's not like I didn't already state your desired point in my original response...

quote:

due to the high level of development he'll have shown with transfers
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 5:49 pm
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10911 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:05 am to
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He didn’t fire himself. His offense got dominated after half time adjustments were made.


Defense plays a big part in what you do on offense, retard. Enjoy your big win superbowl from a couple of years ago though....

I'd dig the bottom out of that win too if I were you.
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 12:11 am
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42466 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:39 am to
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Defense plays a big part in what you do on offense, retard. Enjoy your big win superbowl from a couple of years ago though....



So basically whenever anyone put up a lot of points against you, you can never credit the offense for being good because the defense was so bad?



It’s the same argument when people say OU’s offense isn’t good for playing all the Big 12 defenses. They’re dumb arguments because they’ve proven they are good elsewhere.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10911 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:42 am to


I love your offense dude. I love everything about it. Our defense has been shite for 7 years. Doesn't change how I feel about your offense.
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 12:52 am
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42466 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:45 am to
I’ve also repeatedly said Lincoln Riley is the best offensive mind in college football, so I can’t really contradict myself now
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