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Is Braden Smith's 515lb. press legit?
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:41 am
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:41 am
My buddy says he's using rubberized plates that aren't 45s. Let's hear from the bros who lift.
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:44 am to Upperaltiger06
I saw this video yesterday. I was extremely impressed.
You can tell it's a lot of weight when you can see the barbell bending in places from the plates, which you can see here. (or the barbell is crappy but it looks to be holding up ok)
The only thing I can't tell is if the spot is giving him a few pounds of help, so it may only be like 500 instead of 515
Also, wasn't it weird that the kid didn't make one sound? When I'm maxing or on my last set I'm grunting on the way up in a gross manner
You can tell it's a lot of weight when you can see the barbell bending in places from the plates, which you can see here. (or the barbell is crappy but it looks to be holding up ok)
The only thing I can't tell is if the spot is giving him a few pounds of help, so it may only be like 500 instead of 515
Also, wasn't it weird that the kid didn't make one sound? When I'm maxing or on my last set I'm grunting on the way up in a gross manner
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 11:46 am
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:45 am to Buckeye06
And wtf is up with his spotter having those awful boots on with mesh shorts?
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:51 am to Upperaltiger06
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My buddy says he's using rubberized plates that aren't 45s.
if its a 45# plate the rubber has nothing to do with it. Other then adding to the size of the plate
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:53 am to Buckeye06
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The only thing I can't tell is if the spot is giving him a few pounds of help, so it may only be like 500 instead of 515
The spotters kind of sucked considering the weight and all
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:56 am to Upperaltiger06
Jacked.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:58 am to NYCAuburn
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The spotters kind of sucked considering the weight and all
Agreed if his muscles had twitched or spasmed, or he cramped (which happens sometimes on heavy lifts) not one of those 3 was gonna stop that from hitting his chest HARD
Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:01 pm to Upperaltiger06
quote:Your buddy doesn't realize that there are more than just cast iron 45 plates out there?
My buddy says he's using rubberized plates that aren't 45s.
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:23 pm to joeyb147
We have 5 lb rubber plates in our facility that are the same size as traditional 45 lb plates that everyone recognizes. They are used for boys/girls that are just getting started with a weightlifting program on exercises like power cleans. If the larger plates aren't used, the bar sits to low to the ground and the correct technique can't be used. Many times when we have visitors and they see a small girl cleaning what they think is 135 lbs, its actually only 55 lbs
FWIW, I think that Smith's bench press is legit. He is a monster. Waaaaay past his age physically.
FWIW, I think that Smith's bench press is legit. He is a monster. Waaaaay past his age physically.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:52 pm to Upperaltiger06
depends on if those are metal coated with rubber, or like the plates my crossfit buddies have that are solid rubber. the 45s for those kind are about 2x the width of cast iron plates. 25lb rubber plates look like 45s.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:57 pm to Upperaltiger06
As legit as Tony Mandarich's.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:59 pm to narddogg81
The coach (I assume) who is filming calls out 515, too......
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:09 pm to Upperaltiger06
Really want Braden...possibly the best OL in the country
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:16 pm to Upperaltiger06
1. Those are definitely 100% 45lb plates. Zero doubt about it.
2. That spotter is helping a lot more than it appears. On the second and third rep, he is helping at least 25lbs. You can use two fingers and help a lot more than it would appear. It is not so much how much weight the spotter is actually taking on during the lift, but the keeping of the momentum and the bar moving upward that matters. The sticking point on bench is about halfway way up when the load starts to be transferred from the pecs to the triceps and front delts. The spotter just bumping the bar at that point can make a huge difference and that spotter helped throughout the lift.
Bottom line, yes it is 515. However, the most he could have done without the spot on that lift was 1 rep. He would have not gotten the second or third without it. Possibly the second with a supreme effort and a major bridge with his legs but I doubt it. The third he would not have gotten more than 3-4 inches off his chest.
2. That spotter is helping a lot more than it appears. On the second and third rep, he is helping at least 25lbs. You can use two fingers and help a lot more than it would appear. It is not so much how much weight the spotter is actually taking on during the lift, but the keeping of the momentum and the bar moving upward that matters. The sticking point on bench is about halfway way up when the load starts to be transferred from the pecs to the triceps and front delts. The spotter just bumping the bar at that point can make a huge difference and that spotter helped throughout the lift.
Bottom line, yes it is 515. However, the most he could have done without the spot on that lift was 1 rep. He would have not gotten the second or third without it. Possibly the second with a supreme effort and a major bridge with his legs but I doubt it. The third he would not have gotten more than 3-4 inches off his chest.
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:46 pm to Upperaltiger06
'Rubberized' isn't a thing. They're called bumper plates, because dropping them on the floor won't cause demolition of said floor.
It's a legit lift. Other extraordinary individuals have done more at that age.
It's a legit lift. Other extraordinary individuals have done more at that age.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:02 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Holy shite just watched the video. What were the thinking making those three dudes the spotters? If he slipped up he absolutely would have been fricked
Posted on 1/24/14 at 4:27 pm to polydorr
rub·ber·ize
'r?b??riz/
verb
past tense: rubberized; past participle: rubberized
1.
treat or coat (something) with rubber.
'r?b??riz/
verb
past tense: rubberized; past participle: rubberized
1.
treat or coat (something) with rubber.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 4:37 pm to Upperaltiger06
Weight looks legit. Spotter may have aided too much to call all three reps legit.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 4:39 pm to WDE24
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Weight looks legit. Spotter may have aided too much to call all three reps legit.
Agreed
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