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re: I can't believe Bobby Brown lied to Bama like he did
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:19 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:19 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Because Kirby and Jimbo operate differently than their daddy.
Well coach Shane Beamer left after recruiting Luke Ford however and it's very likely no one knew he was leaving but he was offered a significantly better job weeks after - not the day after.
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:19 pm to BIGJLAW
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Capstone has owned you in every reply. Quit trolling.
Sorry it hurts to have your hypocrisy exposed.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:21 pm to Hugh McElroy
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But if you disagree with me, and think it's okay for coaches to know that they won't be around while also presenting themselves as though they will be around, then please at least have the decency to extend the same rules to the recruits.
Karl Dunbar was the main recruiter on only a handful of kids. And those signed in the early period. So I don't have one issue with this. That is just part of the problem with having an early signing period. Jobs will come open and coaches will leave.
As this relates to Bobby Brown, Tosh Lupoi was his lead recruiter. And had been from the beginning. And for all you or I know, Lupoi may actually end up being the DL coach. That was his forte for much of his career.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:22 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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Well coach Shane Beamer left after recruiting Luke Ford however and it's very likely no one knew he was leaving but he was offered a significantly better job weeks after - not the day after.
I'm not saying coaches can't take better jobs. Nothing wrong with that. I'm saying that if it is wrong for kids to represent themselves as though they are going to playing for a certain school while not actually having any intention to play for that school, then it's wrong for coaches to represent themselves as though they are going to be coaching for a certain school while not actually intending to coach for that school. It goes both ways, or not at all.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:23 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Karl Dunbar was the main recruiter on only a handful of kids. And those signed in the early period. So I don't have one issue with this. That is just part of the problem with having an early signing period. Jobs will come open and coaches will leave.
Again, the point is that Saban knew that Dunbar was not going to be coaching Brown, but allowed Brown to believe that Dunbar would be coaching him.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:26 pm to Hugh McElroy
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I'm saying that if it is wrong for kids to represent themselves as though they are going to playing for a certain school while not actually having any intention to play for that school, then it's wrong for coaches to represent themselves as though they are going to be coaching for a certain school while not actually intending to coach for that school. It goes both ways, or not at all.
You would have a point if it was Tosh Lupoi heading to the Steelers. But it isn't.
Dunbar was a liability in recruiting, with very few assignments. And those assignments inked in the ESD period.
Now you would have a point on Malik Langham. A Dunbar target. Who was a strong Alabama lean until he signed with Florida yesterday.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:29 pm to Hugh McElroy
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Again, the point is that Saban knew that Dunbar was not going to be coaching Brown, but allowed Brown to believe that Dunbar would be coaching him.
Do you have one shred of evidence that Brown felt misled by Dunbar leaving? Felt it was coming and played games too?
Because virtually all the recruiting news on Brown and Alabama related to his relationship with Lupoi.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:32 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Do you have one shred of evidence that Brown felt misled by Dunbar leaving?
Do people have evidence Brown lied to Bama coaches about commiting?
You know damn well a coach leaving the day after signing day was done on purpose. I don't think anyone cares but to expect a recruit to be 100pct honest when teams will do the same thing to a recruit is a bit silly.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:33 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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Do people have evidence Brown lied to Bama coaches about commiting?
To the staff? Of course not. To multiple recruiting sites covering Alabama? Yes.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:34 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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To multiple recruiting sites covering Alabama? Yes.
I would lie to those stalkers as well.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:36 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
Who's to say Dunbar didn't receive a phone call yesterday afternoon about the steelers job?
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:38 pm to bobbyg0037
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Who's to say Dunbar didn't receive a phone call yesterday afternoon about the steelers job?
I'm sure that's what happened. And I bet Brown woke up yesterday morning and just changed his mind.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:40 pm to Hugh McElroy
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And I bet Brown woke up yesterday morning and just changed his mind.
It wouldn't surprise me with Brown. He had a whirlwind recruitment.
This is the same kid who said he didn't sign in the ESD period with Alabama because he thought he had to have a ceremony to do so.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:41 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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It wouldn't surprise me with Brown.
Please. Insiders on the A&M side were very confident about Brown. They had to have had some reason. Brown knew where he was going, just like Saban knew that Dunbar was leaving.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:42 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Tosh was a LB coach. Brown ain’t a LB. He wasn’t going to coach him directly.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:48 pm to Farmer1906
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Tosh was a LB coach. Brown ain’t a LB. He wasn’t going to coach him directly.
Actually Tosh was the co-DC. And is now the playcaller. So in addition to being Brown's lead recruiter for two years, he would have been his DC too.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:48 pm to bobbyg0037
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Who's to say Dunbar didn't receive a phone call yesterday afternoon about the steelers job?
I guess you could say that timing works out excellent for the program.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:56 pm to Hugh McElroy
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I recognize it gets tricky. But there is not much grey area when you resign the morning after signing day.
FWIW, a lot of assistants' contracts start and end just after signing day
Posted on 2/8/18 at 1:01 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Actually Tosh was the co-DC. And is now the playcaller. So in addition to being Brown's lead recruiter for two years, he would have been his DC too.
He could be promoted to cousin lovin czar and he still wouldn't be his position coach.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 1:01 pm to NYCAuburn
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FWIW, a lot of assistants' contracts start and end just after signing day
That changes nothing.
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