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Florida’s NIL deals and “Gator Collective” are apparently being cheap….

Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:36 am
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:36 am
Tony Mitchell’s dad comes out with the haymaker:





Napier has already said, “we’re not getting into a bidding war for recruits.”


Sounds like a piss poor mentality when schools like Georgia, aTm, Bama, Miami, etc. are giving the NCAA the finger and writing blank checks to all of these 5*s.

I can see both perspectives though. If you’re a booster, do you want to commit $4+ million to one player that may or may not work out. Or do you get him signed to your school by any means necessary?

aTm can deny all the want, but they definitely wrote out checks for their 2022 class. The players are going where the money is, and right now, it ain’t Florida.

At this rate, Florida will be 2nd/3rd tier in company with Ole Miss, Arkansas, Kentucky, etc.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 1:51 am
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46385 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:11 am to
It’s a helluva philosophy, playing the “we are going to do things the right way” game when what is “right” is no longer clearly defined. It only had to bite Dabo in the arse once before he started to amend his long-held strategy, wonder how long it takes Billy? If you’ve got the resources, only real recourse is to play the same game as everyone else until regulations are inevitably imposed

ETA: it’s also not just a Florida problem; Tennessee collective is coming up well short of its expressed goals too, in terms of dollars accrued and members in the Collective
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 8:13 am
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:19 am to
they just sent a bunch of guys to Greece for some kind of "working abroad" type of program. that's cool and all, but i don't see how it develops into championships. sure it makes them well rounded and ready for the real world outside of football, but he was hired to win championships. is Bama or UGA doing any kind of stupid shite like sending players to Greece?



Then he has the audacity to send out this letter to the fans a little bit ago....


Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:25 am to
I’ve observed that a lot of coaches find themselves trying to double as the AD of Student Services when they would be better served working with the person that actually holds that title and delegate those initiatives so they can focus on acquiring and developing talent to win games.

Guys like Napier (and Richt, in our case) end up trying to do way too much. If you want to focus primarily on bettering people, switch gears to another side of the AD
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39956 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:40 am to
UGA’s philosophy is you come here to play football first, NIL second. They’re trying to avoid the money first guys but obviously they’ll make exceptions for the top end talent.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36485 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:48 am to
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Sounds like a piss poor mentality when schools like Georgia, aTm, Bama, Miami, etc. are giving the NCAA the finger and writing blank checks to all of these 5*s.



No it doesn't.

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I can see both perspectives though. If you’re a booster, do you want to commit $4+ million to one player that may or may not work out. Or do you get him signed to your school by any means necessary?


Where's the ROI?

Make the player sign a 4 year contract if he wants that much money.

He can't draft early. He can't play for another team. He pays a fine for every practice he misses and every game he refuses to play.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 8:49 am
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35559 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:01 am to
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Sounds like a piss poor mentality when schools like Georgia, aTm, Bama, Miami, etc. are giving the NCAA the finger and writing blank checks to all of these 5*s.


quote:

No it doesn't.


oh yeah? tell me how LSU's recruiting is going with an "integrity first" mentality. are they losing top talent left and right?



nevermind, i just checked LSU's 247 board. they're screaming just like florida's is.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39956 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:10 am to
You can’t tie it in to playing time. You could do weekly appearances that would make it tough to beat like UT did.
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:41 am to
Oh yeah we are right there with y’all.

Our boosters are giving the middle finger to Scott Woodward after being asked to buyout Coach O and his staff, pony up for Brian Kelly, Kim Mulkey, Jay Johnson, and Matt McMahon all in the last year

Can’t blame them. Put up all that money for new coaches and are now being asked to put up more money to buy recruits
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 9:42 am
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36485 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:28 am to
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oh yeah? tell me how LSU's recruiting is going with an "integrity first" mentality.


It's June. I'm not worried. Alabama has like, the 40th ranked class.

And it's got nothing to do with integrity and everything to do with private businesses giving 6 figures to teenagers, no strings attached. You think those businesses will just eat it? No, they'll figure out a way to make us pay for it.

A fricking ambulance chaser is leading this in Louisiana. He'll run insurance providers out the state paying for it.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29321 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:22 pm to
They don’t care about roi . It’s never gonna match what they put out. It’s a hobby to these guys like fishing or Kinda like donating to taf
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30160 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

finchmeister08

Are you pissed at Napier or UF's NIL collectives?
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30160 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:35 pm to
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pony up for Brian Kelly, Kim Mulkey, Jay Johnson, and Matt McMahon all in the last year

While it may be seen as financially burdensome in the short term, IMO every one of those hires will prove to be a significant upgrade compared to their predecessors.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35559 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Are you pissed at Napier or UF's NIL collectives?


sounds like it should be both. if napier's hands are in the collective and making comments about avoiding bidding wars, then he's either a pussy or an idiot or both. if you're gonna "cheat" now's the time to do it.
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:11 pm to
Chase knows what’s up
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
6470 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:13 pm to
Only the Faggies write blank check like this and think they can get it done. Just watch and see how this season plays out.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:03 am to
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They don’t care about roi . It’s never gonna match what they put out. It’s a hobby to these guys like fishing or Kinda like donating to taf


People severely overestimate how much money guys that would actually use their own money to buy recruits actually have.

With very few exceptions kids aren’t getting millions or even anything close to that.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36485 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:05 am to
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While it may be seen as financially burdensome in the short term, IMO every one of those hires will prove to be a significant upgrade compared to their predecessors.


Absolutely. It's a hell of a thing to drop $150 million or so within a year then expect to get a couple dozen blue chips bankrolled so heavy that they don't even flirt with leaving.
Posted by dirty bastard
Delacroix, Georgia
Member since Aug 2020
2110 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:57 am to
I wouldn't be giving my money to a recruit either. I think it's silly. I don't even think they are worth NIL money til they win something or gain popularity. Then, you could pay them to represent your company in some capacity.
Posted by Brunedog
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2014
6480 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 2:06 pm to
I hope napiers wins 11 games this year to show you don’t have to get into bidding wars
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