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re: 5 star PG Ashton Hagans decommits from UGA
Posted on 3/29/18 at 1:36 pm to BowlJackson
Posted on 3/29/18 at 1:36 pm to BowlJackson
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Jared Harper
Would start in his place easily. Harper is 5'9-5'10 and Hagans is easily every bit as good as he is, except even better in some areas. Hagans has about 6-7" on on him and actually plays defense. Harper isn't some fantastically amazing player a near Top 5 overall recruit wouldn't unseat.
You're being a tard, as usual.
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Posted on 3/29/18 at 2:12 pm to beaver
Cal offered him today. I think he'll end up playing for UK, not sure if that's this year or next.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 7:06 am to tWildcat
Auburn backup PG Davion Mitchell transferring after just 1 season, leaves Auburn with only 1 PG now in Harper. They have no 2018 commits at the moment.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:15 am to thunderbird1100
But...but...but Bowl told us there was no playing time for Hagans at Auburn. LULZ!
Anyway, sounds like the kid has UGA, UK, and maybe Louisville on his list and it sounds like the kid maybe heading to Lexington since word is going around Shai is heading the the NBA.
Anyway, sounds like the kid has UGA, UK, and maybe Louisville on his list and it sounds like the kid maybe heading to Lexington since word is going around Shai is heading the the NBA.
This post was edited on 3/30/18 at 8:15 am
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:16 am to tWildcat
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UK, not sure if that's this year or next.
Sounds like he is reclassifying to 2018.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:59 am to WildcatMike
It would be so incredibly massive for us if we snag him and it's in the '18 class. There is zero doubt we will have much better coaching with Crean but without Yante we are seriously deficient in teh backcourt. If we land Hagans I think we could potentially make the tourney in year 1.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:04 am to WG_Dawg
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If we land Hagans I think we could potentially make the tourney in year 1.
I wouldn't go near that far, but UGA shouldn't be incompetent at least if they did get him.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:33 am to thunderbird1100
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I wouldn't go near that far,
we were pretty solidly on the bubble into late Jan/early Feb most years under Fox, and fox is several notches below Crean as a coach. The problem is the Fox always had a Frazier or Yante to carry the team which as of now Crean won't, unless we get Hagans.
Our 3-5 should be pretty darn solid with Hammonds/Claxton/Ogbeide, and we have a couple competent guards. But we don't have that "one guy" like we're used to, and we are badly under-talented at PG. Hagans would answer both of those.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:43 am to WG_Dawg
The problem there is Maten basically did carry the whole team, as the rest of the team simply wasn't really any good.
Ogbeide was the next best overall player but you could argue Maten really open things up for him a lot. As UGA's roster stands now, I couldn't see them winning more than 4 maybe 5 SEC games next season. If they got Hagans, you'd be a solid NIT team probably with 7-8 SEC wins. Being a bubble NCAA team would still be out of reach IMO. Hagans wouldn't have the same impact Maten did as a senior.
But, there's still a long ways to go to see how rosters shape up for next season. The transfer market is just beginning right now.
Ogbeide was the next best overall player but you could argue Maten really open things up for him a lot. As UGA's roster stands now, I couldn't see them winning more than 4 maybe 5 SEC games next season. If they got Hagans, you'd be a solid NIT team probably with 7-8 SEC wins. Being a bubble NCAA team would still be out of reach IMO. Hagans wouldn't have the same impact Maten did as a senior.
But, there's still a long ways to go to see how rosters shape up for next season. The transfer market is just beginning right now.
This post was edited on 3/30/18 at 10:44 am
Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:51 am to WG_Dawg
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darn solid with Hammonds/Claxton/Ogbeide
Barely Solid for role/rotational players
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have that "one guy" like we're used to, and we are badly under-talented at PG. Hagans would answer both of those.
Taking in a HS Senior to carry your team as the guy is not a recipe for success
Sexton was better than Haggans + Hall/Ingram/Key + FR were better supporting cast at Bama and they only went 8-10 in the SEC
This post was edited on 3/30/18 at 11:52 am
Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:53 am to GenesChin
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Taking in a HS Senior to carry your team as the guy is not a recipe for success
Do you think UGA is in a position where we can tinker with our recipe for success?
Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:43 am to GenesChin
quote:Ogbeide is very solid for a 20-25 minute big. He's been a near-elite rebounder since he stepped on UGA's campus and has gotten more efficient finishing even if he'll never be a primary offensive threat
Barely Solid for role/rotational players
And I don't know what the frick you're watching to dismiss Hammonds and Claxton as mediocre role guys. Hammonds was a Top 50 recruit and had a very solid if unspectacular freshman season. Claxton was also a freshman and showed elite athleticism and potential for skill development. He could be a first round pick down the line.
Plus with Crump/Turtle/Hightower you've got options at guards that don't completely suck. Crump has shown flashes and Hightower was a beast in the SECT (was also a freshman).
quote:Everyone knows Bama massively underachieved in conference play. You'd be silly to dismiss Georgia based on that comparison. UGA is more comparable to UT from a talent/style perspective anyways and they went from 8-10 to 13-5 after losing Hubbs. Of course Maten is a bigger loss than Hubbs but UGA is still in pretty solid shape from a roster perspective. The possibility of adding Hagans for this year doesn't seem like it's happening but if Crean could find a grad transfer PG who can shoot and handle the ball I'd expect them to already be in bubble contention next year. Justin Coleman from Bama/Samford would be perfect.
Sexton was better than Haggans + Hall/Ingram/Key + FR were better supporting cast at Bama and they only went 8-10 in the SEC
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 8:50 am
Posted on 4/1/18 at 3:59 pm to GatorsGators
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GatorsGators
I like when other fans know more about the team than myself because I am trying to become a fan of basketball and this helped my knowledge of the team. It sounds like you have a good handle on the conference and what the Bulldogs are capable of and was refreshing to see an honest approach. I wish I had more than one Updunk to give. Thanks bro
Posted on 4/10/18 at 8:30 am to beaver
Just committed to Kentucky this morning. Kentucky has hauled in four 5 stars in a class and just took over #1 recruiting class.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 10:08 am to BowlJackson
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No matter what he'd be coming off the bench, we run a 3 guard system but Jared Harper, Bryce Brown, and Mustapha Heron are as locked in as starters as you can get. Hagans would be competing with Davion Mitchell to see who'd be backing up Harper and who'd move to the 2 to backup Brown.
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Mustapha Heron
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Davion Mitchell
Welp, there goes that argument
Posted on 4/10/18 at 10:10 am to GatorsGators
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Everyone knows Bama massively underachieved in conference play.
I think we underachieved. I certainly don't think we massively underachieved.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 11:24 am to BowlJackson
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we run a 3 guard system
No we don't.
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Welp, there goes that argument
The argument that Auburn would struggle to find minutes for Hagans is still legit. Problem was that Bowl just didn't support it right, even before Mitchell/Heron left
Here is correcting Bowl's arguments
1- "We run a 3 guard system"
AU does not run a 3 guard system, at least not like 04-05 Illinois who played 3 guards who all could serve as primary ball handlers if needed. AU's 3/SF/Wing position is not a position for traditional guards Bryce Brown, Jared Harper or Davion Mitchell.
The confusion here is that Mustapha Heron wanted to be known as a guard, so we obliged him.
2-"No matter what he'd be coming off the bench"
Highly likely that he'd be coming off the bench unless he can displaced proven entrenched starters
3-"Brown, and Mustapha Heron are as locked in as starters as you can get"
Both of these players would be competing for their starting roles + minutes with Samir Doughty + Danjel Purifoy eligible.
3-"Davion Mitchell to see who'd be backing up Harper and who'd move to the 2 to backup Brown."
Even before the transfer, Samir Doughty was higher on the pecking order than Davion Mitchell. That's why Mitchell transferred
This post was edited on 4/10/18 at 11:29 am
Posted on 4/10/18 at 12:00 pm to GenesChin
Then why did the kid commit to Kentucky if there is more depth at the guard position then Auburn? The kid never had Auburn on his radar.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:55 pm to WildcatMike
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Then why did the kid commit to Kentucky if there is more depth at the guard position then Auburn
I'm not sure there is more depth at guard at UK. At least not proven anyways.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:14 pm to WildcatMike
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Then why did the kid commit to Kentucky
For one, UK has a lot of minutes to offer a PG/Combo guard considering UK's lack of depth and talent at the position
I doubt Auburn could have pulled it off even if we had playing time to offer, but the fact that we don't was what took us out of consideration
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if there is more depth at the guard position then Auburn?
Is Forrest Gump your father?
Auburn has both better players and more depth at the guard positions than Kentucky for next season.
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The kid never had Auburn on his radar.
Sounds weird that a team not on his radar hosted him in his words "frequently" and were "in the top" group of teams
Here is the direct quote from Hagans for reference
“Auburn is in the top,” Hagans said. “I’ve been here a lot and I like how the coaches talk to you.”
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