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re: 2019 4-star DT Ishmael Sopsher Signs With Alabama
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:17 am to Bear88
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:17 am to Bear88
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I agree with you on that. If he was from West Virginia LSU wouldn’t give him the time of day IMO. I think he was a “must have “ by LSU fans at first in regards to Coach O support but with the season Lsu had with O ( very good) and the way he is recruiting , I can’t see why LSU is wasting two schollys
Obviously, so Ish doesn't go to bama. It's that simple.
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:26 am to lsufanva
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Thanks for replying and I agree with your take on him and LSU. Don't think he wants to be at LSU and is looking for anyone other than us, preferably Bama, to offer Rodney. If in fact true, don't think I want him. Just screams unhappiness , bust and transfer as soon as Rodney is gone. The sad part is that I think(just my opinion) if left to his own accord he would've already signed with Bama. Parents are ransoming his talent I'm.
Let's say that in the worse case Ish does become unhappy at LSU and transfers a year or so out as you describe. There still is a lot of value to adding Ish to the team in terms of recruiting. That is, O blocks the barber/Petito connection in Amite. That's important for future O/Saban recruiting battles. It can be the difference between Saban putting in tons of resources versus doing practically noting to get his selected La recruits in the future. The outcome that should be gained is next year or the following years Saban avoids La because he realizes the fight is too difficult and there are lower hanging fruit in other states.
That's the worst case, which isn't so bad.
The best case is Ish commits and tears it up.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:32 am to bisonduck
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I am not even sure why LSU just doesn’t go and get two 4 stars and tell him to pound sand, especially with Ika signed sealed and delivered.
LSU is trying to dissolve the Saban/La connections that he established while at LSU. Landing Ish is one step in that direction.
Landing Ish makes the barber irrelevant and all of a sudden Petito is released from bama's coaching staff and is replaced by another coach close to Saban coveted high school recruit from another state.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:34 am to GumboPot
Ding ,ding ,ding Most Bama fans here don’t realize this is what it’s all about
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:38 am to FightinTiga
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Most Bama fans here don’t realize this is what it’s all about
What? We literally all know that's what it is about.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:40 am to GumboPot
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Obviously, so Ish doesn't go to bama. It's that simple.
according to a Bama insider months ago it's the same reason Bama wants him on their roster. Just to keep the pipeline open.
Is that pipeline drying up though? There is one kid next year that is on both radars, and after that, it's nothing special atm. That can change in the blink of an eye.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:43 am to TideSaint
That’s why LSU is willing to make the sacrifice.Most of LSU fans hatred towards Bama has to do with Saban using his LSU connections,which he is of course entitled to but we don’t have to like it
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:05 am to memphisplaya
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according to a Bama insider months ago it's the same reason Bama wants him on their roster. Just to keep the pipeline open.
Bama is a national program and establishes local connections by hiring coaches from high school "pipelines".
I don't see Amite as a coveted pipeline for bama. It's just too small. But regardless were Ish signs bama is probably done with the barber and Amite. Petito is probably moving on as well unless he is making contributions to the bama program that we don't know about.
But again, the importance that Ish going to LSU makes is a message to Saban that all La recruiting battles are going to get tougher and tougher. It not only sends a message to Saban but to other SEC coaches like Fisher, Smart and Mullen. If you are going to come into La look to spend a ton of time and resources. That alone makes the decision process to come into La a little more difficult when there are other fish to land in other states.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:27 am to GumboPot
The assumptions you are making are ridiculous.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:31 am to GumboPot
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Obviously, so Ish doesn't go to bama. It's that simple.
If it requires signing someone who will never play ( which it apparently does) he won’t be going to Bama is my point.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:32 am to GumboPot
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If you are going to come into La look to spend a ton of time and resources.
Or offer that 5* recruit's scrub brother a scolly too
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:36 am to 14&Counting
If Sopsher doesn't come to Bama that won't have any impact on future recruits from Louisiana. I say this as a Louisianian. Nick Saban is revered in Louisiana especially among the football community.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:46 am to Shaft Williams
Orgeron will do more to change that
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:28 pm to GumboPot
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Landing Ish makes the barber irrelevant and all of a sudden Petito is released from bama's coaching staff and is replaced by another coach close to Saban coveted high school recruit from another state.
How does Alabama coming in second, only because we aren't willing to relent on the kid's demands to waste a scholarship, going to suddenly render our pipeline to the school irrelevant?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:55 pm to Bamatab
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How does Alabama coming in second, only because we aren't willing to relent on the kid's demands to waste a scholarship, going to suddenly render our pipeline to the school irrelevant?
Your "pipeline" to that school currently consists of ONE player.
The "pipeline" becoming irrelevant probably will have more to do with them not having any more top SEC prospects on the horizon.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:16 pm to whitefoot
Whole situation just reeks of desperation for all who are involved / willing . Not picking on LSU bc if Bama offers the brother , same goes for them
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:20 pm to whitefoot
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Your "pipeline" to that school currently consists of ONE player.
Pipeline was a poor choice of words on my part, I just meant our path to getting players from that school.
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The "pipeline" becoming irrelevant probably will have more to do with them not having any more top SEC prospects on the horizon.
But he made it sound like LSU getting Sopsher (even if didn't stick around past next year) would be the cause of "the barber" becoming irrelevant, and Petito being canned, not because there wouldn't be anymore SEC talent going through the school. I am confused on how missing out on a kid just because he wants to make an outrageous demand would cause Saban to blame anyone else for losing him.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:32 pm to Bear88
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Whole situation just reeks of desperation for all who are involved / willing . Not picking on LSU bc if Bama offers the brother , same goes for them
No, I think you're correct. I do think there was a sense of desperation on LSU's part to land this kid for all the reasons I listed in my post last night, above.
I know we're still working on the Mississippi guys, so hopefully we can land one of them and make a harder line stance with the Sopshers. I really don't like the precedent that this could set. It was one thing to take a sibling a year or two before or after who might not have been a take, or was borderline, but was still a solid DI or SEC prospect. But this appears to be a completely different kind of deal.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:34 pm to whitefoot
Agreed.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:35 pm to Bamatab
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Pipeline was a poor choice of words on my part, I just meant our path to getting players from that school.
I'm pretty sure you used pipeline because that was the word he used. I replied to your post but I was really speaking to both of you that your argument didn't really matter because you are either getting 1 or 2 kids from Amite High School in a 3 year span, and that there aren't really any other prospects coming up behind them. There's one kid next year who the barber is trying to drum up interest in, but I think hes more of a lower level power 5 player.
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