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re: 2013 Alabama Football Recruiting Thread - DH Decommited from UGA
Posted on 5/19/12 at 9:58 am to BuccWildBammer
Posted on 5/19/12 at 9:58 am to BuccWildBammer
I'm not a talent evaluator at all but I have watched a lot of football games like everyone else here. With his size, its hard not to compare him to Montravius Adams... until you watch the film. He doesn't look like it has a elite burst or bull rush but he does a very good job of holding the point. He looks like he has a good motor. As far as play style goes, i like the comparison Bucc made to Chapman. I don't think he would be an instant impact guy by any means, more of a high ceiling project. I guess 6'4 320lb FREAKS like Jesse Williams are somewhat rare? 
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Posted on 5/19/12 at 10:05 am to Tide or Die87
A. T.Jones should be a 5* RB in my opinion.
B. Some of what was posted about Foster is laughable, but the parts about AU targeting Bama commits and the comments about Dye are pretty accurate. When I say targeting Bama commits though, I don't mean situations like this because it's early and everybody's after Foster. I'm referring to them contacting kids late in the process that they have no shot at in an attempt to steer them away from Bama. It's happened many times just in the last 2 recruiting cycles.
B. Some of what was posted about Foster is laughable, but the parts about AU targeting Bama commits and the comments about Dye are pretty accurate. When I say targeting Bama commits though, I don't mean situations like this because it's early and everybody's after Foster. I'm referring to them contacting kids late in the process that they have no shot at in an attempt to steer them away from Bama. It's happened many times just in the last 2 recruiting cycles.
Posted on 5/19/12 at 10:09 am to TheSystem
I'm a big fan of Tyren Jones too. I think he has all the tools to be a great collegiate back.
Posted on 5/19/12 at 10:19 am to sarc
ESPN article on the Oakland Elite 11:
Cool Hand Cooper
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At the start of the Elite 11 regional at Contra Costa College on Friday, Trent Dilfer stood at the center of some 60 quarterbacks and singled out Cooper Bateman.
Bateman didn't need to be there, Dilfer said. He had already participated in a regional this spring, impressing Dilfer -- head coach at the Elite 11 camps -- enough to earn a recent invite to the July finals in Redondo Beach, Calif
A senior next fall at Cottonwood High School in Salt Lake City, Bateman committed to Alabama on Wednesday to end a whirlwind spring of recruiting activity. Almost immediately, he came down with a nasty cold. He was miserable Thursday on the flight from Utah to California. He could have stayed home on Friday. But there he was, matching throws on a blustery afternoon with Max Browne, Luke Del Rio and a dozen or so other major-college prospects.
"That's why l love him," Dilfer said later. "I don't think people always get it, but I'm not looking for driving-range quarterbacks. There's a million dudes out there who can hit soft draws from the range. Then they stick the tee in the ground, and it's a wild hook or a shove. It's the same with quarterbacks."
Browne, the USC-committed junior out of Skyline High School in Sammamish, Wash., won MVP honors at the Oakland regional on Friday and took home Dilfer's latest golden ticket to the finals. He's the 11th finalist selected, joining fellow Oakland participants Del Rio, from Valor Christian High School in Highlands Ranch, Colo., and Bateman.
The 6-foot-5, 205-pound Browne connected on all five of his throws in the two-minute drill to win top honors in the final challenge over Bateman, Del Rio, Zack Greenlee (Stockton, Calif./Lincoln), Jihad Vercher (Los Angeles/Salesian), Jared Goff (Kentfield, Calif./Marin Catholic) and Johnny Stanton (Rancho Santa Margarita, Calif./Santa Margarita).
Bateman, No. 61 in the ESPN 150, held his own against the 13th-rated Browne. But after the long week and with his invite to the finals secure, why did Bateman make the trip to the Bay Area?
"Just the chance to come out here and compete," he said. "The big names that were out here, I wanted to go rep for rep, throw for throw, with them. Going into the finals, there's no such thing as being overprepared. I saw this as another practice to get prepared."
No surprise, said Scott Cate, offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Cottonwood.
"That guy doesn't get sore," Cate said. "He just keeps chucking it."
Bateman started chucking it for Cottonwood in 2010, his sophomore season, after the team's senior starter failed to receive medical clearance to return from a leg injury for the season opener. Bateman got the call against powerhouse Alta High School of Sandy, Utah. He threw for more than 300 yards and led Cottonwood to victory. And he hasn't rested since.
"He just doesn't get caught up in the noise," said Brett Bateman, Cooper's father.
Such an approach ought to serve the younger Bateman well in college. His choice of Alabama ensures that Bateman will encounter plenty of opportunities to succumb to the noise. That's life in the Southeastern Conference.
"I think he made a perfect choice," Dilfer said. "For Cooper, no stage is too big. No environment is too big."
Bateman visited four SEC schools this spring and looked at Utah, UCLA and Washington. The decisive period came during trips to visit LSU, Alabama, Auburn and Florida, in that order, last month.
The moment he arrived on campus in Tuscaloosa with his mother, Lisa, the quarterback said he felt a connection.
"I had that gut feeling that, aside from playing football there," Bateman said, "I could live there and be comfortable with Tuscaloosa. I didn't know what to picture, going in to Alabama; I thought it would be kind of flat with no trees. But it was gorgeous."
Said his mom: "He wanted that college-town feel, and he wanted a football program with history and tradition."
No doubt, Alabama met the qualifications.
Coach Nick Saban welcomed Bateman's pledge, delivered in a call with Cooper and his father, by stressing to the Batemans the importance of this commitment.
Make sure you mean it, Saban said.
Alabama has experienced trouble recruiting and retaining quarterbacks under Saban since 2007.
No need to worry with Bateman, he said.
"It's something I'm definitely going to stand by," Bateman said.
Bateman said he's thrilled to move past the selection process. So is his coach, who helped deal with dozens of college recruiters to visit Salt Lake City during this spring evaluation period.
"It literally got out of control," Cate said.
In Bateman's mind, calm reigns.
"We're looking for the guy who has that competitive spirit but is fierce," Dilfer said, "that guy who loves the challenge, loves the climb, love the environment.
"That's Cooper."
Cool Hand Cooper
Posted on 5/19/12 at 10:37 am to sarc
Dilfer fixed that shite, if I were Browne I wouldn't want the invite knowing I didn't earn it, sounds like from the get-go the fix was in and Dilfer and the Elite 11 officials just wanted Browne and his pansy arse in the Finals 
Posted on 5/19/12 at 11:14 am to BuccWildBammer
How u know it was fixed? 
Posted on 5/19/12 at 11:27 am to BuccWildBammer
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What do you think Mag?
Much of the same you do. IIRC B.T.W isn't the best school to get the proper coaching. It's been pretty spotty producing D-1 talent recently, after the likes of Jon Demps, Mike Taylor, and LaDarius Green a few years back.
I do like his size as a potential NG and that he does play it already, but that stance is wonky. I remember seeing James Carmon playing NG at his JuCo with a similar stance, ended up playing OT for State. But despite it, the end results are usually good for Paige.
Camps will be big for him, like it was for Lake last year. He's a little more on the map, but it's not like he's Adams or Liner. I can't check it since 247 is acting weird for me, but they had him ,at least at one point, over the likes of Maquedis Bain.
I wouldn't be opposed to him getting an offer as the NG in the class, but at some point Bama has to make these "project" NG, or rather just high school NGs, turn out. They got lucky with Chapman, and he wasn't even a full evaluation...
Posted on 5/19/12 at 11:38 am to MagillaGuerilla
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but that stance is wonky
110% If you watch his weight is all lower legs and butt is way too low, I didn't post in the 1st eval for fear it was too "football lingo" speak
so he has no explosion off the snap, rather a straight up standing move, with technique I feel he could develop into a completely different dominant player if he got his butt up high and put his weight forward. I was hoping you saw that as well. With the proper stance, his upper body strength would be unstoppable especially with bull rush moves he is accustomed to using We are on the same wavelength
Posted on 5/19/12 at 12:15 pm to MagillaGuerilla
This is an article on bleedbluekentucky.com on May 17th on Paige, someone posted this on BOL replying to a post from someone saying they got a text from one of Paige's teachers at WHS telling them he was commiting to Bama & asking staff for confirmation:
LINK
HHhhmmm...he claims an offer
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Earlier this week, I spoke with Pensacola, FL (Washington) DT Darius Paige (6’4, 293) who said that his recruitment has been exciting and going good at the moment. Paige claims 16 offers, with some of those schools being: Kentucky, Alabama, Arkansas State, Clemson, Connecticut, Florida, Florida State, FIU, Louisville, USC, Tennessee, USF and South Alabama. Of those, he mentions hearing the most from: Alabama, Clemson, Tennessee and South Alabama and that those schools are his likely leaders at this point. Paige mentioned that the Kentucky offer came through his high school coach and that he has yet to speak with anyone from the UK staff.
Currently, he has visited Alabama, Florida, LSU and South Alabama and plans to camp this summer at Alabama, Tennessee and possibly LSU. Paige expects that he will ultimately make a commitment to a school after his Senior season and noted that he will likely remain close (within driving distance) to his Pensacola home. In 2011, Paige recorded 97 tackles, 32 TFL, 3 sacks and 3 forced fumbles.
LINK
HHhhmmm...he claims an offer
Posted on 5/19/12 at 12:34 pm to BuccWildBammer
I was gonna post that last night, but I questioned the credibility of parts of the article and the site.
Posted on 5/19/12 at 12:54 pm to MagillaGuerilla
oh ok didn't browse the site etc, just saw the link on BOL
TY for keeping me in order
TY for keeping me in order
Posted on 5/19/12 at 12:55 pm to MagillaGuerilla
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I questioned the credibility of parts of the article and the site.
Posted on 5/19/12 at 12:56 pm to chilld28
Anyone have news on Jonathan Allen?
Posted on 5/19/12 at 2:00 pm to MagillaGuerilla
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KeithRIVALS Keith Niebuhr
DCs from #Alabama #Clemson & #OleMiss -- Smart, Venables, McGriff -- saw Robert Nkemdiche last night
Posted on 5/19/12 at 2:14 pm to BuccWildBammer
Charles Power
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According to sources, UA has received a commitment from Pensacola (Fla.) Washington defensive tackle Darius Paige. More on the way, so stay tuned.
Posted on 5/19/12 at 2:20 pm to chilld28
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!! 
Posted on 5/19/12 at 2:26 pm to chilld28
247 lists him as 33rd best DT, #72 in Fla
6'5 295 at last camp NG!!
6'5 295 at last camp
NG!!
Posted on 5/19/12 at 2:31 pm to BuccWildBammer
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Dilfer fixed that shite, if I were Browne I wouldn't want the invite knowing I didn't earn it, sounds like from the get-go the fix was in and Dilfer and the Elite 11 officials just wanted Browne and his pansy arse in the Finals
Really? This is a joke right? 247, who was at the event, had Browne 1st, and Bateman 8th. No fix, Bateman was just wasn't as good
ETA: Here's what they said about Browne
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Browne has everything you want out of a top quarterback recruit. He’s got legit size, a big-time arm and he’s got the polish and feet that you expect.
Throwing into a brutal headwind much of the day, Browne was one of the few players that didn’t let it affect his accuracy or his spin. He’s got a very high release allowing him to make throws on a trajectory that others can’t utilize. Browne embraced the spotlight as the nation’s top arm and removed any doubt that he is one of the top quarterback prospects we’ve seen come out in a few years.
This post was edited on 5/19/12 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 5/19/12 at 2:34 pm to AMM AU9893
You wouldn't be good either if you had a cold.
Posted on 5/19/12 at 2:39 pm to RollTide4Ever
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You wouldn't be good either if you had a cold.
Then use that excuse instead of saying a national competition is fixed against a Bama commit
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