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re: 2013 Alabama Football Recruiting Thread - DH Decommited from UGA

Posted on 2/26/12 at 10:57 pm to
Posted by BuccWildBammer
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Posted on 2/26/12 at 10:57 pm to
Does not matter who is or will be there, he is a good enough talent to start day 1, or at the very least be a significant contributor. Difference is he is enamored with the Jack OLB position in a 3-4 and it earns much more money and higher picks in draft, ex Upshaw will be at the lowest in the top 20, only LSU player going that high is a CB

Oh meant to ask Memphis who are you talking about about to be hired as LSU DB coach, I am actually a Buccaneers fan (hence the name) so I was curious how you think Cooper will transition to the NFL, strengths and weaknesses, just email me plz so as to not clog up Bama RB
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 2/26/12 at 11:00 pm to
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only LSU player going that high is a CB...and Michael Brockers


FIFY, he's shot up the draft boards in the last month. He might break the top 10 come draft day.
This post was edited on 2/26/12 at 11:01 pm
Posted by memphisplaya
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Posted on 2/26/12 at 11:01 pm to
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Does not matter who is or will be there, he is a good enough talent to start day 1, or at the very least be a significant contributor. Difference is he is enamored with the Jack OLB position in a 3-4 and it earns much more money and higher picks in draft, ex Upshaw will be at the lowest in the top 20, only LSU player going that high is a CB


Wrong. DE is just as big of a need. Ftr Brockers is likely the top Dlineman taken and possibly top 10. He's shooting up draft boards.

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Oh meant to ask Memphis who are you talking about about to be hired as LSU DB coach, I am actually a Buccaneers fan (hence the name) so I was curious how you think Cooper will transition to the NFL, strengths and weaknesses, just email me plz so as to not clog up Bama RB

Former LSU player Corey Raymond. Current DB coach at Nebraska.

Cooper is a meh recruiter, but when it comes to evaluating and coaching up talent, which is all he needs to do for Tampa bay, he's nearly second to none. His accomplishments speak for themselves. He will be missed and no matter who we hire, it's still a step down.

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FIFY, he's shot up the draft boards in the last month. He might break the top 10 come draft day.


Get out of my head!!
This post was edited on 2/26/12 at 11:06 pm
Posted by BuccWildBammer
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Posted on 2/26/12 at 11:06 pm to
Don't see a team going that high for Brockers but we shall see, but I would guess it is possible with a huge combine so my bad didn't realize how high he has climbed up the board.

All I care about top 10 is that Tampa takes TRich likely won't happen now though with them hiring Cooper
Posted by memphisplaya
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Posted on 2/26/12 at 11:09 pm to
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Don't see a team going that high for Brockers but we shall see, but I would guess it is possible with a huge combine so my bad didn't realize how high he has climbed up the board.

What is the number 1 rule when building up a team that finished near dead last?

Start in the trenches.
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 2/26/12 at 11:12 pm to
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Don't see a team going that high for Brockers but we shall see, but I would guess it is possible with a huge combine so my bad didn't realize how high he has climbed up the board.



I do. He put up solid combine numbers and was pretty productive in college. He doesn't really fit the profile of a workout wonder. Should be a good 4-3 DT.

Posted by BuccWildBammer
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Posted on 2/26/12 at 11:20 pm to
Thx Memphis I'm excited about Cooper

Sounds like that would be a good hire Nebraska always has quality DBs

Usually there is 1 or 2 guys that shoot up a draft, bit not that many DL do it is usually a WR or LB
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/26/12 at 11:31 pm to
Posted by memphisplaya
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Posted on 2/26/12 at 11:45 pm to
I'm sick and tired of seeing our DT's misused as 3-4 DE's.

Just like Dorsey. If you stick both in a 4-3 system they will thrive. At 6'7 he's could be the next Albert Haynesworth like DT in the NFL.

Also he was listed as a DE in HS not a LB
Posted by BuccWildBammer
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Posted on 2/27/12 at 12:07 am to
I'm hoping Upshaw gets drafted by a 3-4 team so he can be a rush OLB and not an undersized DE for a 4-3 team
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 2/27/12 at 7:42 am to
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Saban didn't need to negatively recruit to get TJ, anyone who actually knows the details of his recruitment will tell you that.


what constitutes negative recruiting? Yeldon mentioned that one of the reasons he switched was AUs uncertainty at OC. Does the Alabama coaching staff questioning AU's offensive situation constitute negative recruiting, or just stating facts?... AUs staff mentions the Taylor and Philon situations to recruits?... is that negative recruiting, or just stating facts?

bottom line is big-time recruiting is a cut-throat business... all staffs will say just about anything to get a kids attention...
Posted by Sandkhan
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Posted on 2/27/12 at 7:52 am to
Am I the only one who wants Conner instead of Matthews???
Posted by Tide or Die87
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Posted on 2/27/12 at 8:14 am to
I wanted Connor at first but since Matthews and Reuben are soo cool ill take Matthews.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 2/27/12 at 8:52 am to
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Posted by bamasgot13
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Posted on 2/27/12 at 8:56 am to
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Yeldon mentioned that one of the reasons he switched was AUs uncertainty at OC


At the time of the switch Alabama also had uncertainty at the OC. Our OC had agreed to be the HC at CSU. We knew an OC wouldn't be hired until after the National Championship game on Jan 9th. That meant that Yeldon would be enrolled before knowing who his OC was going to be.

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Does the Alabama coaching staff questioning AU's offensive situation constitute negative recruiting, or just stating facts?...

How do you know this happened. I think the fact that we were in the exact same situation with our OC should lead you to believe that it is entirely unlikely that this particular point (uncertainty at OC) was made by Alabama.

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AUs staff mentions the Taylor and Philon situations to recruits?

AU staff likely doesn't know the full story on either Taylor or Philon.


As for Yeldon committing to Bama, I think he's been on record saying he grew up a Bama fan. AU intrigued him and Gus was a big part of that. He'd been reconsidering for months. I mentioned that the staff kept recruiting him b/c he gave them reason to feel like they should. Once Gus was gone his last reason for holding on to his AU commitment was gone so he switched.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 2/27/12 at 9:04 am to
Any one got any stretches for a stiff neck?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/27/12 at 9:05 am to
Look I'd say it's a part of college recruiting, and every staff employs it in some form. Some use the info like a used car salesman, and others more subtlety. Don't think for a moment Bama coaches did not use the last year against AU in recruiting kids. If you assume negative recruiting isn't used you are naive or just a fool.
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 2/27/12 at 9:07 am to
Of course I don't know with 100% certainty what was said between the AL coaches and Yeldon... I do know he was quoted saying one of the reasons for the decommit was due to our OC situation.

don't be niave.

regardless, I'm not here to fill up your recruiting thread with stupid back and forth... but to think that the alabama coaching staff doesn't negative recruit to a degree is beyond ridiculous.

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/27/12 at 9:07 am to
Trey

I just lightly rotate and increase it every time. I also add ice pack, and then hot pack. I have my wife provide neck and shoulder massage. Good luck those suck.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 2/27/12 at 9:09 am to
Thats pretty much what I have been doing.

So now all I need is some flexorals or a wife.
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