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re: "...you may see the day where players don't have to go to school. I think that's coming."
Posted on 7/10/25 at 9:49 am to CaliHorn
Posted on 7/10/25 at 9:49 am to CaliHorn
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People are just mad teams can pay over the table now instead of under it.
All true.
But explain why "under the table" benefitted Alabama and Oklahoma, but now "over the table" benefits Texas and Ohio State.
Nobody wants to touch that question. For an obvious reason.
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Posted on 7/10/25 at 9:53 am to paperwasp
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If the thousands of athletes on campus at Alabama and Auburn become state employees overnight, who pays for that?
This isn't what will happen. This is
Most athletic associations are already incorporated, but non-profit. They will eventually spin off for-profit S-corps and players will become employees, likely only football and basketball.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:22 am to jonnyanony
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They will eventually spin off for-profit S-corps and players will become employees, likely only football and basketball
Ahh, interesting. I haven't heard that anywhere.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:38 am to Harry Boutte
I think if college football had real student athletes playing on Saturday, the crowds would still be the same. It is still an event and it is about school and state pride.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:42 am to MtVernon
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explain why "under the table" benefitted Alabama and Oklahoma, but now "over the table" benefits Texas and Ohio State
Logically every major program had at least someone or several someones who were receiving impermissible benefits.
But to even pretend it was anywhere near the current magnitude of cash is absurd.
Certain players may have been pried away from other schools with those offers, and even then it was mostly by programs that just couldn't get those guys, or by a larger one that wanted one guy. The most successful programs are self-perpetuating for the most part, including those you mentioned above.
I personally know a player for a "less successful" SEC team who got a car to sign with them instead of where he initially wanted to go, and when he got injured they took the car away. (And that team's fanbase is usually always the first and loudest to accuse others, by the way.)
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:52 am to paperwasp
They haven’t been for a long time. I "had class" with Early Doucet..it was freshman level intro bio and it was his senior year. In that class in Doson we had to check in using clickers and when we did your name disappeared... his name never disappeared once the whole semester.
Dude was a senior in freshman bio and never showed.....
Dude was a senior in freshman bio and never showed.....
Posted on 7/10/25 at 11:03 am to Dr Rosenrosen
University presidents can stop the madness if they had the balls. But they don’t because of money. Make athletes go to class take their own test and pass. After all these are supposed to be institutions of higher learning. Few would be eligible to play. Problem solved
Posted on 7/10/25 at 11:24 am to MtVernon
quote:I don't think many people would watch the minor league either. People watch college football because of what the logo represents. Without the schools being involved I surely would not watch, just like I don't watch USFL or minor league baseball.
The bigger problem is ESPN wouldn't televise it.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:03 pm to PSS101
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Athletes driving around in Mercedes Benz on campus with their $$$. Rest of the students eating ramen noodles. Don't you just love the way this is heading.
It's almost like it's a reflection of our country and the current dispersion of wealth.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:15 pm to GulfSouthTiger
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Without the schools being involved I surely would not watch, just like I don't watch USFL or minor league baseball
Good point, and I agree.
Even if I occasionally watch or go to those games, I'm not fanatical about those leagues.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 1:55 pm to Wildcat23
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I think if college football had real student athletes playing on Saturday, the crowds would still be the same. It is still an event and it is about school and state pride.
I mean I still enjoy high school football games, along with the pageantry and the camaraderie.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 2:33 pm to paperwasp
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supplemented by the NFL
Why would the NFL want to supplement a minor league when they’re already getting it for free?
Posted on 7/10/25 at 4:47 pm to SL Tiger
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Why would the NFL want to supplement a minor league when they’re already getting it for free?
Not on their own of course, I just meant since we've now spent years slowly deconstructing the college game, perhaps changing a couple of eligibility rules early on and pressuring the NFL to support a (separate) pay-for-play league would've made more sense.
Hell, along with the G League the NBA still subsidizes the entire WNBA.
What does the NFL do? And it's roughly worth $200 billion, mainly off talent provided to them for free.
BTW, despite this "woulda coulda" I still blame the NCAA and similar groups for not getting ahead of this sooner, figuring out a plan, and implementing something that made sense. They simply waited until their hand was forced, and panicked.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 4:49 pm to paperwasp
Cardale Jones… GOAT tweet
This post was edited on 7/10/25 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 7/10/25 at 5:08 pm to Kneehigh
So if they don’t go to school and are employees how long until the alums back out of footing the bill??
Posted on 7/10/25 at 5:10 pm to Wildcat23
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I think if college football had real student athletes playing on Saturday, the crowds would still be the same. It is still an event and it is about school and state pride.
As long as fans demand winning from coaches, pay them huge money, and fire them left and right when they don’t produce, you will continue to have rosters that consist of players of questionable academic standing, shady character, and no affiliation with the state school.
The fan demand for winning and entertainment is why college football is perverted. Fans just don’t like to hear that.
Watch Pete Bell’s postgame speech in the movie Blue Chips. It is spot on about how major college sports were corrupted and this was 30 years ago.
“Y'know, I'll tell you something else. Y'know, someplace in America right now, there's some 10 year old kid. He's out there on that playground, and he's playin', he's dribbling between his legs, he's goin' left, he's goin' right, he's already above the rim, he's stuffin' it home. You know what's gonna happen to this kid? Five minutes from now, he's gonna be surrounded by agents, corporate sponsors and coaches. Y'know, people like me. Just drooling over this kid because he holds our future employment in his hands. I mean, that's what we've made this game. That's what we've done. Y'know, the best coaching job I ever did, that wasn't tonight. It was last season. Y'know, when we were 14 and 15 and we had a losing season. But goddamnit, those kids, they gave me their HEARTS! They gave me everything they had! They played up to the MAXIMUM of their ability! They gave it EVERYTHING! And y'know, it wasn't good enough! It wasn't good enough for me, it wasn't good enough for you, it wasn't good enough for anybody! That's pathetic.”
Posted on 7/10/25 at 5:43 pm to MtVernon
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But explain why "under the table" benefitted Alabama and Oklahoma, but now "over the table" benefits Texas and Ohio State.
Nobody wants to touch that question. For an obvious reason.
First, Texas and Ohio State (boosters) paid under the table just like every other teams boosters did.
The difference is that paying "over the table"... schools like Texas and Ohio State can outspend other teams more easily than when it was illegal.
This was due to the fact that it was less organized and fewer people were participating. And the people that were had to be more discrete.
Now you can just give them money. Its not illegal and more people are prone to be involved and it is much easier to BE involved.
In the old days.. to cheat... you actually had to have access to the player somehow. Nowadays you don't.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 5:48 pm to Globetrotter747
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the movie Blue Chips
Still my favorite documentary about how Nick Nolte found Shaq
Posted on 7/10/25 at 6:06 pm to MtVernon
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But explain why "under the table" benefitted Alabama and Oklahoma, but now "over the table" benefits Texas and Ohio State.
If you don’t think Texas was paying players all along, same as Alabama, Oklahoma, and every other contender , you are very naive.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 6:14 pm to Globetrotter747
100%
SEC schools bragged about the conference being a pipeline to the NFL. They weren’t bragging about it being a pipeline to medical school.
There is nothing to suggest, even now, that fans will turn out for a bunch of bookworms in pads.
SEC schools bragged about the conference being a pipeline to the NFL. They weren’t bragging about it being a pipeline to medical school.
There is nothing to suggest, even now, that fans will turn out for a bunch of bookworms in pads.
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