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MrAUTigers
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re: Yahoo: NCAA waiting for feds to finish
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Dude I posted the link to the court documents for that on the last page. Pretty much confirms exactly what i said.




what you said was Person was not trying to get them to leave. That is exactly what he was doing to an Auburn freshman and a sophomore.


civiltiger07
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what you said was Person was not trying to get them to leave. That is exactly what he was doing to an Auburn freshman and a sophomore.


Can you actually read? I’m starting to get worried about you.

Why in the world would a coach get paid to convince a player to leave? If that was true you should be seriously worried about Pearl allowing someone like that on his staff.

Person was getting paid and forwarding some of the money to players so that they signed with the agent Person was working for. Person wasn’t getting paid to convince the players to leave.


BrerTiger
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You are assuming correctly......and that is why Pearl could not talk to the AD or the Pres. until after the FEDS gave him the all clear......unlike Wade, which has been a comparison LSU fans have made many many times.


Well, the comparison would be that LSU made Will Wade come in and face the music with the NCAA investigators present and asking their own questions.

Whereas Bruce told the new school president at Auburn where to stick it:

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Pearl has not spoken directly with Leath, Greene or Auburn University counsel about the timeline of events that led to Person’s arrest and indictment, the paid leave of two basketball staff members and the ineligible status of Wiley and Purifoy.

“Clearly, Bruce knows that my expectation is that sooner or later he’s going to have to come in and talk to me and others on campus about what’s going on in the program,” Leath said.

Pearl told Goodman on Saturday morning that “we’ve complied enough to still be here” when asked about whether he or his attorney have had conversations with school officials, including the compliance personnel.



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Well, shit, I guess Will Wade has complied enough for now too.

Just had to hire Bruce Pearl's attorney.


MrAUTigers
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re: Yahoo: NCAA waiting for feds to finish
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Why in the world would a coach get paid to convince a player to leave? If that was true you should be seriously worried about Pearl allowing someone like that on his staff.



That is why Person was arrested and plead guilty.


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Berman argued the recording showed that "Person understood that concealing the scheme alleged in the Indictment was far from 'strictly incidental' to his continued employment."


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Berman restated the superseding indictment's claim that Person made "deliberate efforts" to conceal his actions in order to keep his job at Auburn, which aligns with the legal definition of wire fraud: the goal to obtain money or property in the form of salary under false pretenses.


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MrAUTigers
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Well, the comparison would be that LSU made Will Wade come in and face the music with the NCAA investigators present and asking their own questions.

Whereas Bruce told the new school president at Auburn where to stick it:


So your reading comprehension sucks also?

Wade refused to meet with the LSU admin.. Pearl could not because of the FED investigation going on into the bball program at Auburn. As soon as the FEDS told Pearl all was clear on his end, he did meet with the Pres..


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lsufball19
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neither your link nor the quotes you provided say Person paid players to leave Auburn. What Person did was bribe players and their families to retain the future services of his "financial advisers" down the road, just like street agents for high school players. You do know Christian Dawkins was in the same indictment with Person right? He just refused to plea, along with the two Adidas execs. These were essentially futures contracts....we'll pay you a nice chunk of money now if you let us handle your affairs when you go to the NBA. Shoe companies, same thing, but instead of financial advising it was, we'll pay you this money now if you agree to sign with our shoe company after college. It wasn't about paying them to leave, it was about locking them in for when they do.
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civiltiger07
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This is comical! And you said my reading comprehension was bad! You don’t even fully understand what you are posting.

Did you look at the DOJ documents for the trials I linked?


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MrAUTigers
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neither your link nor the quotes you provided say Person paid players to leave Auburn.


so they were paying a freshman and a sophomore to complete their eligibility first?


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Shoe companies, same thing, but instead of financial advising it was, we'll pay you this money now if you agree to sign with our shoe company after college. It wasn't about paying them to leave, it was about locking them in for when they do.


It is about first getting them to a school that wears their brand. You don't see Adidas guys steering players to Nike schools. Then signing them to a shoe contract when they go pro.


civiltiger07
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neither your link nor the quotes you provided say Person paid players to leave Auburn.
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so they were paying a freshman and a sophomore to complete their eligibility first?



Oh my god! Dude for the 5th time (maybe more) he was steering players to an agent. He was not telling them when to leave the university just that when they did use this agent.


MrAUTigers
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Dude for the 5th time (maybe more) he was steering players to an agent. He was not telling them when to leave the university just that when they did use this agent.


He was actually steering them to a financial adviser. And Person was paying the players family members and pocketing some for himself. Actually, Person was pocketing the majority of the money. Again, was the financial adviser going to continue to pay them for the entirety of their eligibility?
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civiltiger07
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Person was paying the players family members and pocketing some for himself. Actually, Person was pocketing the majority of the money.


I know this.

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Again, was the financial adviser going to continue to pay them for the entirety of their eligibility?


Most likely. Why would someone give money to a player and after he decides to stay in school just give up and stop? Could also depend on the arrangement, they could agree to a one time payment.


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lsufball19
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so they were paying a freshman and a sophomore to complete their eligibility first?

I told you why
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It is about first getting them to a school that wears their brand. You don't see Adidas guys steering players to Nike schools. Then signing them to a shoe contract when they go pro.


I'm trying to see what exactly you're disagreeing with in my post here. So you agree, thanks
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civiltiger07
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At this point he is regurgitating the info you have feed him as if he has known it the entire time. It’s very comical.


MrAUTigers
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I'm trying to see what exactly you're disagreeing with in my post here. So you agree, thanks



I do agree that the shoe companies are trying to keep athletes wearing their shoes. The players are walking billboards.


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MrAUTigers
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At this point he is regurgitating the info you have feed him as if he has known it the entire time. It’s very comical.




BS.

I stand by my point that ball19 wants to come across as smarter than he actually is. I stand by my point that nobody has any idea what is going to come out in this trial. I stand by my point that nobody knows what the outcome will be.

I stand by my point that LSU is not in the clear yet.

I stand by my point that the NCAA has not even begun their investigations into the corruption of college basketball.......and they won't until the FEDS finish up their investigations. Why should they? The FEDS may come up with some bombshell that the NCAA could not with their limited abilities to fully investigate anything.


lsufball19
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At this point he is regurgitating the info you have feed him as if he has known it the entire time. It’s very comical.

I think what he doesn't understand is these payments were basically non-binding, good-faith security deposits. If Purifoy and Wiley were paid to leave school, they would have done just that.
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According to the FBI complaint against Person, he allegedly received $91.500 and says on camera to uncover agents that he paid bribes of $11,000 and $7,500 to family members of Wiley and Purifoy to steer them toward financial advisers. Person allowed for meetings to take place between the mothers of the players and the people Person was working with in the alleged scheme.


11k and 7.5k for these two players is nothing if they used these guys to manage NBA money down the road. Sounds like a lot to a poor college kid so they use that as bait to get in the door. Financial planner profits if the players end up signing with him, and if the players don't he hasn't lost very much relatively speaking. But if you throw enough players the bait, someone will snatch it and the financial planners still come out ahead at the end of the day.

I honestly have not seen the "he paid our guys to leave school" stuff anywhere but this message board from Auburn fans. And oddly enough, neither player, in fact, did leave school.
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civiltiger07
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I stand by my point that ball19 wants to come across as smarter than he actually is.


I don’t know how smart lsuball19 is so I can’t commit on if he is coming off as smarter than he actually is, but I can say with confidence that he is smarter than you are.

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I stand by my point that nobody has any idea what is going to come out in this trial. I stand by my point that nobody knows what the outcome will be. I stand by my point that LSU is not in the clear yet. I stand by my point that the NCAA has not even begun their investigations into the corruption of college basketball.......and they won't until the FEDS finish up their investigations. Why should they? The FEDS may come up with some bombshell that the NCAA could not with their limited abilities to fully investigate anything.


This is just a bunch of sentences that just mean nothing.

I can tell you at this point if wade’s testimony and the wiretap tapes are not allowed in court Auburn would probably have more to do with this trial than LSU.


BrerTiger
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 I stand by my point that nobody knows what the outcome will be. 




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firewater706
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Wade sure does look the part of a sleazy sum-bitch


lsufball19
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Wade sure does look the part of a sleazy sum-bitch

so he looks like a basketball coach


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