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re: Worst top 25 ballot ever?

Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:04 am to
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:04 am to
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Would add Auburn to that list, too.
Some would, but this voter isn't going to value a win over Arkansas very highly at this point. The good news is, that if Arkansas shows over time to be a quality win, he will adjust his vote accordingly.
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 10:05 am
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
766 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:04 am to
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What was wrong with his preseason poll? Because he had Auburn 13th?



He had Auburn 13th in his preseason poll. Auburn won and won ATS. They played a conference game and not a "cupcake", and they slide to 15th. I don't see much of an algorithm. Its just headline creating to keep Wisconsin in the Top 10 and move WVU into the poll.

If the excuse is that Arkansas was suppose to be "hot garbage" then what was WVU suppose to be?
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36507 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:05 am to
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Based on what I saw, LSU is borderline top 20. Wisconsin at 10? Did he watch the second half of that game??

LSU fans keep bringing up that his poll is based on "on the field" results. LSU's on the field results were suspect at best. Heck half of LSU's fanbase were lighting their torches at halftime.


Bias noted, carry on.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25094 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:05 am to
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If the excuse is that Arkansas was suppose to be "hot garbage" then what was WVU suppose to be?


READ THE frickING EXPLANATIONS.

He looks at losses too. It really is all in there. Either go read it, read it again, or learn how to read.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36507 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:05 am to
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It's so funny when people who always bitch about how polls are bullshite because they aren't fluid, turn around and bitch about a poll ballot that doesn't conform to the "standard" that was based solely on preseason hunches.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25094 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:07 am to
You would think after 2004 that all Auburn fans would embrace someone who actually thinks outside of the herd while ranking football teams. Sadly, memories fade.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19053 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:08 am to
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LSU fans only love this guy today because he has their team ranked first. If LSU is not in his top 25 next week, a lot of fans will want to torch his house. Don't bother trying to deny it


I don't deny it. This weeks Rant fodder... gotta love it. One guy rustles the jimmies of the whole state of Alabama!

Next week will be something else.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36507 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:09 am to
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LSU fans only love this guy today because he has their team ranked first. If LSU is not in his top 25 next week, a lot of fans will want to torch his house. Don't bother trying to deny it


Actually, it's you that hates the pollster for ranking LSU first.

I've read your posts before, and I sincerely regret it.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:09 am to
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Bingo.

Let's be honest, if we're looking for a regression candidate, they are by far the easiest one to pick. Lucky as hell last year, tougher schedule this year, still struggle to stop most teams.


Then you aren't paying attention. The biggest problem I saw with his poll WAS Auburn being so low....and I liked the poll.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:11 am to
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The good news is, that if Arkansas shows over time to be a quality win, he will adjust his vote accordingly.


I think Arkansas will show themselves to be greatly improved. Ok, at least improved. The problem is, with the West so even this year they might not imprve on their record much.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36507 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:11 am to
There are going to be problems with any poll in week 1.

The idea is, this guy is trying to devalue preseason polls. That's a good thing.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26626 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:12 am to
At least he got the #1 team right.

Bama should be unranked though
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 10:12 am
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:13 am to
This thread is hilarious. Aubies in a tizzy. LSU fans explaining the integrity of his system.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25094 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:14 am to
Actually, one of the most persuasive on the issue has been WDE.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:15 am to
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There are going to be problems with any poll in week 1.

The idea is, this guy is trying to devalue preseason polls. That's a good thing.


I agree. As I said...the only problem I had was Auburn being so low.

That said. I THINK he has Georgia a bit high...but he based it on the first week. Based on that, I can understand why he put us there. It will work itself out soone or later.
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7806 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:16 am to
I agree. it doesn't have the Cajuns on it.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:17 am to
I don't think the guy's system is the best way to do it, but it is a reasonable way to do it and better than most. He makes a concerted effort to have his poll, over time, eliminate the prejudices created by preseason speculation. As a result of sticking to his system, his poll looks a little goofy early in the season. Not a big deal if you understand his methodology.
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 10:19 am
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
17909 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:19 am to
Some coach voted Memphis into the top 25. That's the worst ballot ever.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25094 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:20 am to
No kidding. That he isn't locked into the, they lost so move them down 6 maybe 7 spots without regard to the winning team or previous results makes his method vastly superior to the standard one utilized.
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:22 am to
I really do not have a problem with this poll and kinda like the way this guy does his rankings.

Sure I think AU should be higher, but, we looked pretty bad for the first half of the game (which is all we have so far this season) against a team that probably isn't very good and won't finish with a winning record. Had we blown Arky out from the get-go I'd have some real issue with this poll.

I guess you could say the same thing about LSU, but, it seemed obvious to me that Wisky will be a good team this year.
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