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Will "opt outs" force a playoff expansion? Its getting a little ridiculous with P5
Posted on 12/21/20 at 9:50 am
Posted on 12/21/20 at 9:50 am
Schools that don't make playoffs and severly watering down bowl games.
Don't think it's gonna change til these guys have something to play for in the post season and will probably get worse.
Don't think it's gonna change til these guys have something to play for in the post season and will probably get worse.
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 9:54 am to RD Dawg
I don't know if it will force a playoff expansion, but something needs to be done. It is getting to the point where these kids are even opting out of the major bowls, which is killing my interest in these bowl games.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 9:54 am to RD Dawg
It's certainly a cause for concern.
I do think this year is particularly bad simply because players have "COVID fatigue". The constant testing, the berating by whomever is handling contact tracing, sequestration, taking classes remotely, and on and on have made playing this season less fun. Another few weeks for a meaningless bowl game and a chance at injury just doesn't seem worth it to many...and I can't really blame them this year.
I do think this year is particularly bad simply because players have "COVID fatigue". The constant testing, the berating by whomever is handling contact tracing, sequestration, taking classes remotely, and on and on have made playing this season less fun. Another few weeks for a meaningless bowl game and a chance at injury just doesn't seem worth it to many...and I can't really blame them this year.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:00 am to Wildcat1996
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Another few weeks for a meaningless bowl game and a chance at injury just doesn't seem worth it to many...and I can't really blame them this year.
Agree but I really don't think it changes any of the big name opt outs.We had ton in '18 and '19 and if looks the same this year.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 10:02 am
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:00 am to RD Dawg
Quitters gonna quit. Don't give a damn about them because they're...quitters.
What happened? When I was young no one tolerated a quitter. It was one of the worst things you could do.
What happened? When I was young no one tolerated a quitter. It was one of the worst things you could do.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:03 am to Toroballistic
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When I was young no one tolerated a quitter.
Imagine telling an old-school coach like Bear Bryant or Vince Lombardi that you had decided to sit out a game due to personal or moral convictions.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:04 am to Toroballistic
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What happened? When I was young no one tolerated a quitter. It was one of the worst things you could do.
Those days are long gone and guys like Derrick Brown are the very rare exception and there's obviously no shame and ridicule when these guys make the decision
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:06 am to Toroballistic
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Quitters gonna quit. Don't give a damn about them because they're...quitters.
What happened? When I was young no one tolerated a quitter. It was one of the worst things you could do.
They aren't really quitters because many of them never really wanted to play college football. They want to play in the NFL and once that dream is accomplished they may never step on campus again. They aren't fans. They don't think like fans. The goal was the NFL and opting out is the smart thing to do over playing in a meaningless bowl game.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 10:07 am
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:07 am to RD Dawg
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Will "opt outs" force a playoff expansion? Its getting a little ridiculous with P5
Saban told everyone this would happen. He opposed the playoff because it would make the other bowls meaningless. Morons said he was scared of a playoff.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:08 am to bigDgator
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They aren't really quitters
Stopped reading here.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:08 am to Toroballistic
Most of the guys skipping the bowl game are opting out to focus on the NFL draft, senior bowl time with NFL scouts, and combine training. They are making a business decision a lot of folks in their position would take.
I have no issue with bowl opt outs - they can actually be a good thing for young guys on the team for next year to get some playing time they would not have gotten. Mid-season opt outs are a little different. I agree that COVID has probably forced more than usual this year as a lot of the players have to follow very stringent contact tracing / testing protocols to play and it probably gets old.
I have no issue with bowl opt outs - they can actually be a good thing for young guys on the team for next year to get some playing time they would not have gotten. Mid-season opt outs are a little different. I agree that COVID has probably forced more than usual this year as a lot of the players have to follow very stringent contact tracing / testing protocols to play and it probably gets old.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 10:11 am
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:22 am to imjustafatkid
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Saban told everyone this would happen. He opposed the playoff because it would make the other bowls meaningless. Morons said he was scared of a playoff.
The other bowls were already meaningless.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:26 am to Toroballistic
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Quitters gonna quit. Don't give a damn about them because they're...quitters.
What happened? When I was young no one tolerated a quitter. It was one of the worst things you could do.
So then the Sugar Bowls against Utah and OU did matter?
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:29 am to RD Dawg
Honestly if you’re a senior with any decent draft stock position is the risk even worth playing? I’d rather go to the senior bowl and use that as your combine vs these meaningless games. Bowl games should be looked at as JV games for younger players to get some experience.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:38 am to bigDgator
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The other bowls were already meaningless
Nah, the smaller bowls maybe, but the six top-tier bowl games were almost always a big deal before the playoffs made them a consolation prize.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:38 am to ChiGator
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Bowl games should be looked at as JV games for younger players to get some experience
I can promise the folks at ESPN and folks who run NY6 bowls don't look at it as a JV game.It should be a reward for what the team has accomplished and if I'm playing in my last CFB game the last thing
I'm gonna do is let a underclassmen take my posistion so he can prepare for "next year"
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:39 am to imjustafatkid
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imjustafatkid
Stopped reading here.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:41 am to RD Dawg
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if I'm playing in my last CFB game the last thing
I'm gonna do is let a underclassmen take my posistion so he can prepare for "next year"
That's because you're not looking at potential millions in the next few months by doing nothing. Easy to say from your position.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:43 am to paperwasp
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Nah, the smaller bowls maybe, but the six top-tier bowl games were almost always a big deal before the playoffs made them a consolation prize.
There are plenty of examples of superior teams not showing up to major bowl games because they didn't get in the playoff or BCS championship game. Bama vs Utah in the 2008 season or UF vs Louisville in the 2012 season, or even Georgia 2 years ago vs Texas.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:43 am to imjustafatkid
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He opposed the playoff because it would make the other bowls meaningless
Meh.You can easily incorporate the bowls into the playoffs if you go to 16 teams.
Just gotta get rid of the conference championships
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