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re: Will Ole Miss ever have to drop "Rebels"?
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:14 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:14 pm to lsufball19
I didn't make the claim that they wouldn't drop Dixie. I just said that if they continue playing it, they'll be rightly criticized.
Arkansas played Dixie as a secondary "fight song" for over 60 years.
In 1969, 46 freaking years ago, the black student union protested it. We removed it, and replaced it.
46 years ago.
"Old South" iconography is vital to the "Ole Miss" identity. They cherish it, and they are rightly criticized for doing so. The two go together these days.
Arkansas played Dixie as a secondary "fight song" for over 60 years.
In 1969, 46 freaking years ago, the black student union protested it. We removed it, and replaced it.
46 years ago.
"Old South" iconography is vital to the "Ole Miss" identity. They cherish it, and they are rightly criticized for doing so. The two go together these days.
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:16 pm to Numberwang
I forgot that you're an expert on all things Ole Miss. Thanks for your dedication to the Ole Miss family, even though we are beneath you in many ways.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:21 pm to Tornado Alley
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I forgot that you're an expert on all things Ole Miss. Thanks for your dedication to the Ole Miss family, even though we are beneath you in many ways.
it's common sense. as time has passed, ole miss has tried to separate itself further and further away from things associated with the civil war and and racially insensitive connotations that come with many of their traditions. i don;t have to be an expert on all things ole miss to read the news and notice a trend. if you want to keep wool over your eyes then, by all means, continue to do so. but rational people can see a trend that has taken place over the past 15-20 years in oxford.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:23 pm to Oxford Town
quote:Col Reb - bad - he gone. Rebel flag - bad - he gone (not sure if you are old enough to remember but the flag was banned not because of its meaning but it suddenly became a "dangerous stick". Rebels - just as bad as the other two but we are going to marginalize its meaning and keep it because we like it - check! That's fine with me but don't pee down my leg and tell me its raining. Don't try to make it something its not.
Col Reb has been gone since 2003, that was 12 years ago. The confederate flag has been gone for almost 20 years. They have been gone for quite some time now. Ole Miss knew back in the 90s this was bringing the University down. The University has been thriving ever since. Dixie will still be played and we are still the Ole Miss Rebels no matter how many people say otherwise.
ETA - back when I did go to Ole Miss games, they would throw out bundles and bundles of Rebel flags until most people in the stadium that wanted one had one (until they became dangerous sticks).
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:23 pm to lsufball19
My post wasn't directed towards you. It was directed to Numberwang, a poster whose obsession with tearing down what people incorrectly believe about Ole Miss is only matched by his obsession with all things NWA.
Also, every rational Rebal realizes we won't be "Ole Miss" or the "Rebels forever.
Also, every rational Rebal realizes we won't be "Ole Miss" or the "Rebels forever.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:24 pm to Tornado Alley
gotcha, and for the record, i'm sick and tired of the faux outrage over stuff like this around the country, but it is what it is
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:26 pm to lsufball19
Me too. I don't know how to combat it.
If the General Lee statue is torn down in New Orleans, then the Jackson statue should be as well.
Remove the Washington Monument while we're at it.
If the General Lee statue is torn down in New Orleans, then the Jackson statue should be as well.
Remove the Washington Monument while we're at it.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:27 pm to Tornado Alley
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Me too. I don't know how to combat it.
If the General Lee statue is torn down in New Orleans, then the Jackson statue should be as well.
Remove the Washington Monument while we're at it.
It will not surprise me if people (democrats) in Memphis eventually petition to exhume Nathan Bedford Forrest's remains in Confederate (for now) Park downtown and have them moved
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:29 pm to Tornado Alley
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tearing down what people incorrectly believe about Ole Miss
Its more difficult to update symbols and mascots/songs when your mascot is a political statement in the first place.
People identify strongly with political statements. For the rest of us, a mascot is just a mascot. It is just an animal/fictional character that a team wears. It isn't a political statement.
"Rebels", Dixie, and "Ole Miss" have always been deliberately political.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:30 pm to Latarian
Yes
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:32 pm to lsufball19
It is gonna take a lot to remove bones. Exhuming bodies are big time public policy concerns.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:35 pm to Tornado Alley
well I am exaggerating a little bit...sort of
Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:57 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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The moment we drop that or "Ole Miss" is the moment I start sending my donations to State or LSU instead.
I would too, I'm not and Arkansas State fan but it pissed me off when they went from Indians to the Redwolfs
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:00 pm to Numberwang
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Dixie will still be played and we are still the Ole Miss Rebels no matter how many people say otherwise.
And people will still criticize you for it, and rightly so.
Ole Miss is not playing it to be racist.lol. The black athletes have no problem with it. I've never heard of an Ole Miss football player or opposing player having a problem with Rebels, Dixie, confederate flags etc. People keep putting shite in their heads they will. Otherwise they aren't worried.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:15 pm to bayou2003
quote:I know you didn't just write with a straight face.
Ole Miss is not playing it to be racist.lol. The black athletes have no problem with it. I've never heard of an Ole Miss football player or opposing player having a problem with Rebels, Dixie, confederate flags etc. People keep putting shite in their heads they will. Otherwise they aren't worried.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:42 pm to SwayzeBalla
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The University of Mississippi Fighting Black Bears sounds badass IMO
And why Black Bears? Why not just "the fighting bears". Oh the discrimination!
Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:31 pm to Latarian
Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:56 pm to madmaxvol
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The opportunity was missed. Ole Miss could have chosen Admiral Ackbar, and completely repackaged the Rebel thing to something other than the confederacy. They could have played up when other teams come to Oxford in their all white (Storm Trooper) uniforms. They really could have played up the Rebel Alliance vs The Evil Empire thing, and gotten away with it.
Instead, they chose a freakin bear.
Also George Lucas basically gave Ole Miss the finger when he said that Ackbar was too busy "fighting in a Galaxy Far Far away" to be a mascot.
Posted on 6/25/15 at 5:01 pm to Carolina Tide
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Instead, they chose a freakin bear.
The student body actually chose a horse. It was going to be called "Rebel." But that was too close to anything having to do with the Civil War. Because horses were used in the Civil War.
I am being serious.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 6/25/15 at 5:05 pm to Diamondawg
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Ole Miss is not playing it to be racist.lol. The black athletes have no problem with it. I've never heard of an Ole Miss football player or opposing player having a problem with Rebels, Dixie, confederate flags etc. People keep putting shite in their heads they will. Otherwise they aren't worried.
I know you didn't just write with a straight face.
Personally I never had a problem with Dixie. I thought it was a beautiful song. Apparently the black kids in Ole Miss' band thought the same thing, since they kept on wanting to do band and play the song.
I never had a problem with Col. Reb either. I thought the way he leaned on his cane was
. The flag is another story, but other than that I never had a problem with Ole Miss. But everyone is different.
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