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re: Will Bobby Petrino ever sign a 5 star player?
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:36 pm to Lieutenant Dan
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:36 pm to Lieutenant Dan
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Have you seen some of the calls LM makes?
Doesn't Miles give the QBs the responsibility to check out of "wrong" called plays?
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Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:37 pm to Sao
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Sao
You alright in my book bruh, so don't take this as a flame. Ark is a one-trick pony. Jus sayin..
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:39 pm to Sao
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So, One Trick?
But 12th and 1st is Two Trick?
Got it.
I'm not in the whole one trick/two trick thing. I can tell you Arkansas was not a "Top 5" defense in this conference last year finishing 7th in points allowed per game. That's what I was correcting.
And we all know defense > offense in this conference in terms of importance, generally the formula for success in this conference is having an elite defense and a good enough offense. Not the other way around, unless of course you have black jesus v. 2.0
This post was edited on 8/6/11 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:39 pm to TTsTowel
Again you are basing that on how they played against your porous defense. I remember JJ having a Heisman game on your defense in 09. Their WR's are good, but I stand by that it's all the system.
You don't know what JJ has down in the off season or what improvements krags has made. You are going off all of last year and are not leaving open the possibility that JJ made improvements and our offense will be better because of it. I think there Is a good chance he Is improved , but I am leaving the window slightly cracked by saying there is also a chance it's the same old JJ. you on the other hand did no such thing and are basing your opinion on an exaggerated stance. Leave that window cracked till the season starts then shut or open it as you see fit.
You don't know what JJ has down in the off season or what improvements krags has made. You are going off all of last year and are not leaving open the possibility that JJ made improvements and our offense will be better because of it. I think there Is a good chance he Is improved , but I am leaving the window slightly cracked by saying there is also a chance it's the same old JJ. you on the other hand did no such thing and are basing your opinion on an exaggerated stance. Leave that window cracked till the season starts then shut or open it as you see fit.
This post was edited on 8/6/11 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:41 pm to thunderbird1100
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And we all know defense > offense in this conference in terms of importance
which is why florida, georgia, and mississippi state were better teams than arkansas and auburn last year
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:43 pm to roody
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which is why florida, georgia, and mississippi state were better teams than arkansas and auburn last year
When did I say that this is the case for this? Re-read what I said.
Do you agree or disagree in general the importance is placed on defense, not offense, in this conference? Don't you think there's a reason why?
Also, outside of Auburn last year, what SEC team recently hasn't had a very good defense and won the conference? You can't always count on a black jesus to come along like Auburn did. We all know Auburn was a 3-4-5 loss team last year with a normal QB.
Might I remind you last year as super-awesome as Arkansas' offense was you still lost 2 conference games, giving up SIXTY-FIVE points in one (in regulation) and didn't play in the SECCG because your defense wasn't just a good bit better than it could of been.
This post was edited on 8/6/11 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:44 pm to memphisplaya
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I remember JJ having a Heisman game on your defense in 09
That was hardly a Heisman caliber game. Hardly...
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Again you are basing that on how they played against your porous defense
No, Arky's defense played horrible against our offense. But, as a whole, they're very improved. They have the best set of WRs in the SEC, hands down. Hamilton, Childs, Wright, and Adams.. With Gragg at TE. Their o-line will be fine, IMO. The QB has looked impressive every chance he has gotten. He did all of that torching against Auburn in the 2nd half alone.
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You don't know what JJ has down in the off season or what improvements krags has made.
This sounds familiar...
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You are going off all of last year and are not leaving open the possibility that JJ made improvements and our offense will be better because of it.
I've heard this before...
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I think there Is a good chance he Is improved
This too
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but I am leaving the window slightly cracked by saying there is also a chance it's the same old JJ
The odds that this is true are greater than the other.
Plus, I'm not sure how LSU's defense will adjust to losing Nevis, PP7, and Sheppard. They were the 3 best players on defense, hands down.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:45 pm to thunderbird1100
if you want people to read what you say you might wanna put it all in the first time and not in an edit after you realize how stupid the original was 
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:45 pm to memphisplaya
Arky fans, as a State fan, I can understand the frustration of constantly hearing that your coach "can't recruit." I think Petrino is a great coach and you all definitely have reason to be optimistic. I would not be too worried about what recruiting services say about your talent when you are going to BCS bowl games.
I have learned that you will never win an argument about recruiting rankings, which is completely absurd to me. Look at Bama's '09 championship team. They had their fair share of 5 stars, but a lot of their difference makers were rated lower than 5 stars (Dareus (3 stars), Ingram (3 or 4 star), McElroy (3 stars). Heck, Ron Zook could land 5 stars, but we all know how his teams have historically performed.
I think Ark. has a lot of great momentum and should have really good teams for the foreseeable future, 5 stars or not.
I have learned that you will never win an argument about recruiting rankings, which is completely absurd to me. Look at Bama's '09 championship team. They had their fair share of 5 stars, but a lot of their difference makers were rated lower than 5 stars (Dareus (3 stars), Ingram (3 or 4 star), McElroy (3 stars). Heck, Ron Zook could land 5 stars, but we all know how his teams have historically performed.
I think Ark. has a lot of great momentum and should have really good teams for the foreseeable future, 5 stars or not.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:47 pm to roody
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if you want people to read what you say you might wanna put it all in the first time and not in an edit after you realize how stupid the original was
I'm not editing content, I'm adding content. I havent changed anything.
The only thing stupid here is some hog fans who apparently can't comprehend.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:50 pm to Big Dawg 24
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Look at Bama's '09 championship team
This is a horrible comparison. That team was stacked with several high-star talent. Not saying there wasn't any good 3-star level talent, but you're kidding yourself if you don't believe they didn't have numerous 4 and 5-star players on that team.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:50 pm to TTsTowel
Alright , towel just expect a verbal lashing when JJ wins the Heisman and marries Erin Andrews.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:51 pm to pankReb
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Nutt can sign 5-stars......
And coach them down, that is if they are still on campus two years into their career. All those 5-Stars recruits worked well for the Rebs last year didn't they? If Nutt really coaches them up the Rebs might, if they get any breaks at all, rocket to a 5th place finish in the SEC West this year. However, that’s very unlikely.
Is Nutt really on the verge of completing a 50 year double-double? It was 50 years since the Rebs had gone to back-to-back New Year’s Day bowls and Nutt accomplish that in his 1st two years at Ole Miss with Coach O’s recruits. Now Nutt has the Rebels poised to finish last place again (back-to-back) and he is doing it with his own recruits (5-star recruits and all).
Has Ole Miss ever finished last in consecutive seasons in the SEC? If not then Nutt will be able to lay claim to an unprecedented 50 year double-double.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:52 pm to thunderbird1100
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Might I remind you last year as super-awesome as Arkansas' offense was you still lost 2 conference games, giving up SIXTY-FIVE points in one (in regulation) and didn't play in the SECCG because your defense wasn't just a good bit better than it could of been.
and LSU also lost two conference games because its defense played like crap in both. in fact, lsu gave up more yards to auburn than arkansas did and also gave up more yards to arkansas than arkansas gave up to bama. so is lsu a one-trick pony or does it have two lousy tricks?
This post was edited on 8/6/11 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:52 pm to memphisplaya
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marries Erin Andrews.
I would be jealous
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:54 pm to roody
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so is lsu a one-trick pony or does it have two lousy tricks?
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:55 pm to Choctaw Hog
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Choctaw Hog
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Ole Miss
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finished last
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in the SEC
I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say yes. Not even gonna mess with googling that one.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:56 pm to roody
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and LSU also lost two conference games because its defense played like crap in both. in fact, lsu gave up more yards to auburn than arkansas did and also gave up more yards to arkansas than arkansas gave up to bama. so is lsu a one-trick pony or does it have two lousy tricks?
If you combine how many points we gave up in our TWO losses last year it still doesnt even equal or exceed Arkansas' total given up to Auburn.
Defense wasn't our primary issue in either loss.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:57 pm to hawgndodge
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'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say yes. Not even gonna mess with googling that one.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 12:57 pm to thunderbird1100
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Look at Bama's '09 championship team
This is a horrible comparison. That team was stacked with several high-star talent. Not saying there wasn't any good 3-star level talent, but you're kidding yourself if you don't believe they didn't have numerous 4 and 5-star players on that team.
Did you read my post? I said they had a lot of talent, but some of the biggest differences makers weren't 5 stars. They were stacked at a lot of places. However, that is a completely different defense without Dareus. Plus, McElroy was the starting QB over a guy or two more highly rated than him. Then throw in other guys like Javier Arenas (3 star) that were flat out difference makers. I didn't say that it was a perfect comparison. I was only pointing out the fact that you take those 3 stars away from Bama that year and you would have had a completely different team.
Look at Bama's '09 championship team
This is a horrible comparison. That team was stacked with several high-star talent. Not saying there wasn't any good 3-star level talent, but you're kidding yourself if you don't believe they didn't have numerous 4 and 5-star players on that team.
Did you read my post? I said they had a lot of talent, but some of the biggest differences makers weren't 5 stars. They were stacked at a lot of places. However, that is a completely different defense without Dareus. Plus, McElroy was the starting QB over a guy or two more highly rated than him. Then throw in other guys like Javier Arenas (3 star) that were flat out difference makers. I didn't say that it was a perfect comparison. I was only pointing out the fact that you take those 3 stars away from Bama that year and you would have had a completely different team.
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