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re: Will Bama ever really replace Saban?

Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:11 pm to
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:11 pm to
Auburn literally bought their only modern day national championship for 180K. Pretty good deal though
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:14 pm to
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Auburn literally bought their only modern day national championship for 180K. Pretty good deal though
Yet Bama was on probation for cheating for about 15 to 20 years since Auburn. It's just coincidence that Saban looks average when the NIL and Transfer Portal kicked in good.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40863 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:15 pm to
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Bama was on probation for cheating for about 15 to 20 years


Uh huh
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13363 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:21 pm to
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Auburn literally bought their only modern day national championship for 180K
Not nearly as much as any year Bama paid and now they can't even buy one. We are already getting to where Bama fans are talking about the past instead of being relevant now.
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8857 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:35 pm to
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It’s a tall task to replace a legend. What Saban has accomplished is incredible. Whoever Bama hires has huge shoes to fill.


Not sure who will want that job. You never want to be the guy that replaces the legend.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5933 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:36 pm to
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Are we going back to pre-Saban Bama

Worth noting many years before Saban Alabama was an elite team. I’d bet on a regression with eventual resurgence within a decade. If they make a great hire, I could see them continuing to be in the hunt but just not as consistent as under Saban.
Posted by AZHorn
Southern Arizona
Member since Aug 2021
144 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 11:21 pm to
Saban had a lot of help from boosters/ bagmen and a good friend running the NCAA turning a blind eye. Those 2 circumstances alone helped him tremendously. I'd be willing to bet almost every college dynasty since the 50/60's has won with that same formula. I know schools like OU had the "slush fund" to pay players many decades ago when they were beating everyone..

I'm not sure if another coach at BAMA or any school can reproduce it now in the NIL/ transfer portal era; it seems like BAMA is already struggling a little now with Saban still there..
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 11:28 pm
Posted by Ag72
Navasota Texas
Member since Oct 2021
204 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 11:43 pm to
You conveniently left out all of the bad years.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:07 am to
With the transfer portal and NIL is Saban even Saban anymore? I don’t think anyone will dominate the way Bama has the last 20 years anymore. UGA has an outside shot but I think even they are gonna hit a wall at some point. The NIL has changed College football landscape forever
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28291 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:22 am to
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Auburn literally bought their only modern day national championship for 180K. Pretty good deal though




You paid that for an OL decades ago. Imagine what skill player were going for?
Posted by EthanHunt007
Member since Aug 2023
1171 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:35 am to
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The 80’s and 90s Bama was bad. Very bad


Very bad? Bruh they only had like two losing seasons in 20 years, won 28 games in a row and of course an NC and multiple SEC titles. They even finished the regular season undefeated in 94. Goddamn even Dumbass DuBose won an SEC title.

You guys talk about Alabama fans having unrealistic expectations but damn we don't consider the 80s and 90s as "very bad" like you guys do

Bama wasn't "very bad" until the early to mid 2000s. The 80s and 90s were lit.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36567 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:48 am to
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Nice deflection


Not a deflection, homey.

Alabama is like the terminator.

In 1983, Tennessee, LSU, and Auburn managed to put the Bear to pasture.

Done, right? Nah, think again.

Tennessee continued to thrive, Auburn found a great coach, and LSU crashed then soared, like we do, and LSU discovered the next legend.

That legend bailed on LSU, crashed in the NFL, then resurrected a dead elephant.

It's like Battlestar Galactica, man. Alabama is due for a decade of mediocrity. Then they'll hire some kind of superstar that'll have them in the playoffs every year.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14965 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:02 am to
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It’s a tall task to replace a legend. What Saban has accomplished is incredible. Whoever Bama hires has huge shoes to fill.


NIL and transfer portal are what made college football fun again. More upsets happening more often than before.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 1:04 am
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:03 am to
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The 80’s and 90s Bama was bad. Very bad.


Lol explain. They won a national championship and had mostly 8+ win seasons during the two decades. Some bad years by today’s standards but only a few really bad years. The early 2000s were rough
Posted by tOGLettuce
Out Yonder
Member since Aug 2015
1108 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:10 am to
Honestly, I’d begin talking with the few worldly Communist Presidents. No one democratically can replace a torrent who has ruled longer than most kings, as in Lord NS.

The answer is no, idealistically. But yes, theoretically, if Alabama wants to participate in the sport of football, he will undoubtedly be replaced. Although, he will be hooked into the program until Hitler takes him underground. Futuristically, RIP
Posted by tOGLettuce
Out Yonder
Member since Aug 2015
1108 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:15 am to
Don’t forget MSU
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:36 am to
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Yet Bama was on probation for cheating for about 15 to 20 years since Auburn. It's just coincidence that Saban looks average when the NIL and Transfer Portal kicked in good.


They still had the top recruiting class this year. Coordinator changes have been the big issue. It’s hard to develop players when they have a new position coach every season.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14965 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:10 am to
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They still had the top recruiting class this year. Coordinator changes have been the big issue. It’s hard to develop players when they have a new position coach every season.

Isn't that a good indicator that Nick Saban needs to find coaches to stay for 3 or so years to give the team time to gel? If he isn't able to get this solved soon, he should retire.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 3:12 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65132 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 4:17 am to
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The 80’s and 90s Bama was bad. Very bad.



Were they? Let's investigate:

1980: 10-2
1981: 9-2-1 (SEC champions)
1982: 8-4
1983: 8-4
1984: 5-6
1985: 9-2-1
1986: 10-3
1987: 7-5
1988: 9-3
1989: 10-2 (SEC champions)

1990: 7-5
1991: 11-1
1992: 13-0 (SEC champions; National champions)
1993: 9-3-1
1994: 12-1
1995: 8-3
1996: 10-3
1997: 4-7
1998: 7-5
1999: 10-3 (SEC champions)

That 20-year-period, as "down" as it is by Alabama standards, rivals the success of the entire history of the Texas A&M football program.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 4:19 am
Posted by Ricky Gene Waters
Tuscaloosa
Member since Sep 2023
51 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:52 am to
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Worth noting many years before Saban Alabama was an elite team. I’d bet on a regression with eventual resurgence within a decade. If they make a great hire, I could see them continuing to be in the hunt but just not as consistent as under Saban.


Unfortunately I can see a decade+ of coaching carousel with a few faux good teams sprinkled in. Kind of like what Florida has gone through post Urban
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