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re: Why was Bama so bad from 1992 til 2009 (sans 1999)?

Posted on 7/14/17 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 4:32 pm to
The denial started by questioning the link to roll tide.com
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3920 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 4:33 pm to
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So the OP could call it a fluke. Mike Dubose beat Spurrier twice that season.


Yep, there's the connection I was missing. It's grasping hard at nothing, but he gave it a solid effort.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 4:34 pm to
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Alabama fans deny that only one home game out of seven was sold out in 2004, even in the face of facts.

You've yet to provide anything that says the number of tickets sold.
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
3787 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 4:35 pm to
Nice of you to crop the clocks in the photo
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 4:36 pm to
...And then it continued by questioning how attendance is taken
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3163 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 4:38 pm to
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The denial started by questioning the link to roll tide.com



I looked at all the replies to both posts where you provided a link, and the closest that any of them come to questioning the validity of the information was "where does it say that the games weren't sold out?"

As we just discussed, your link lists attendance, which may or not be tickets sold. No one refuted the attendance numbers.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72340 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 4:41 pm to
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The denial started by questioning the link to roll tide.com


Don't stop being pedantic at this juncture. You linked wikipedia to begin with. Then showed where their numbers came from a few pages later. Regardless, in that same post that I questioned your using of wikipedia as a source, I also pointed out it was hilarious that your source also showed 100% attendance in the years preceding and following 2004.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 4:53 pm to
I could be wrong, but I think Alabama has sold out every game in Tuscaloosa since 1988.
Posted by GenghisKhan
Gulf Coast
Member since Aug 2016
960 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 5:22 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 5:51 pm to
Back on topic...Alabama was the second winningest SEC program of the 1990s behind only Florida.

So to say that Alabama was "so bad" from 1992 till 2009 is something of an inaccurate statement. 2000-2007 is probably when things went down hill and that was mainly due to NCAA probation, and even then we weren't THAT bad. We were decent enough to where people were wondering aloud why we fired Mike Shula at the end of the '06 season. We were ranked in the AP Top 5 as late as November 2005.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 5:57 pm
Posted by kbrake37
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2016
3094 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 5:55 pm to
Man plzzz what you mean?

Everyone knows!!

They were under a microscope. They couldnt cheat at levels they were accustomed too. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure this shite out.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12236 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 6:00 pm to
Bama was pretty solid from 1991 to 1996 under Stallings. Bama would have won several more SEC titles if those weren't the Spurrier GOAT years.

97-06 were due to bad coaching hires.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51623 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 6:19 pm to
Paul Jr. He and Mal Moore didn't want to have a coach who they couldn't control, also had to be one of Bear's boys. That was the preference anyway.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 6:29 pm to
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Paul Jr. He and Mal Moore didn't want to have a coach who they couldn't control, also had to be one of Bear's boys. That was the preference anyway.


Mal Moore had very little to do with it.

Bob Bockrath was the one who hired Mike DuBose, and that's only because he and university president Andrew Sorensen were incompetent enough to bow to fan pressure to promote the dude after only one year as a defensive coordinator. Bockrath wanted to go after Frank Beamer but he listened to the boosters instead of common sense.

Mal Moore hired Dennis Franchione and that was a good hire. Had the Albert Means scandal never happened, it's quite possible Fran wins us a national championship. That '02 squad was a Top 5 caliber team. Instead...we got put on major probation and Fran bolted for seemingly greener pastures. Moore made a good hire in Mike Price but his indiscretions cost him the job. Shula was the only "bad" football hire he ever made and it was made only because there is hardly anyone available to choose from in the middle of May.
Posted by Bama3714
Alabama
Member since Feb 2015
5155 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 6:31 pm to
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I mean, I know your coaching hires during that time were questionable and you cheated and got some sanctions for it, but with Bama being Bama, I thought you would be able to overcome those things.

However, you guys were bad until Saban's arrival (sans a fluke year in 1999).

Did the fan base just give up after one bad season and didn't come back til Saban brought you to the promise land? I mean, you guys had some awful seasons in that span.

I will tell you, I was at the Florida-Bama game in 2005 when Prothro broke his leg and Bryant-Denny was not full.



People might have taken your post seriously until that. Literally nobody believes that.
Posted by ksrph
Alabaster, AL
Member since Jan 2010
1168 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 6:39 pm to
I really don't think Shula was a bad hire. I'm not sure they could've gotten any better. Somebody had to be the sacrificial lamb to get through that time. It would have been great if he had been a good head coach. He wasn't.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 6:50 pm to
That's why I had "bad" in quotation marks. Shula was literally the only one we could have gotten at the time and under those circumstances.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86624 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

I was at the Florida-Bama game in 2005 when Prothro broke his leg and Bryant-Denny was not full.


I was too.

And you're wrong.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 7:41 pm to
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I was too.

And you're wrong.



LOL, and /thread
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72340 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 7:54 pm to
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WG_Dawg


Did you make it to the 2002 Alabama-Georgia game? Hell of an atmosphere too. And hot as hell.
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