re: Why Ole Miss had to replace Col Reb (long)

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Put Col Reb on the ballot and see if that holds.

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Do you really think that 94% of the students voted for Col. Reb back in 2003?


Let me rephrase that....do you really think 94% of the students voted?




















The answer is no.

The real life model for Col Reb.

""Blind Jim" Ivy was a campus fixture until his death in 1955, seven years before the school was integrated in 1962. He was affectionately known as "the dean of freshmen" for his many pep talks to incoming Ole Miss freshmen classes. Jim Ivy became an integral part of the University of Mississippi in 1896."

Flagship school of Mississippi
Please! Delusional Ole Miss fans.
There is no flagship school because specialties are divided among State and Ole Miss ..Ole Miss has the lawyers and doctors and that's it. State has Engineering and the vet school..oh and a winning team!

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Sure it wasn't 94 percent of the student body that supported colonel reb, because not every student voted. But you can't use the argument that the students voted for the black bear to be the mascot. I honestly see black students wearing colonel reb stuff around campus all the time and I guarantee you that the majority of black students either like col reb or simply don't care, the issue is more of a white guilt issue that we have created ourselves, and while having col reb may produce some consequences, the consequences are not nearly as large as some would like to believe, certainly not as important as the confederate flag issue. You can't pretend that if the student body was given the option that they wouldn't bring back col reb, that is extremely foolish. The bottom line is that we have made such a big deal of this issue and created so much bad press about col reb ourselves that he could never be brought back now

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This post completely negates the fact that we've had a battle in athletics with negative recruiting tactics that's ammo included Col. Rebel. It's been a fact for years and it's been more recently documented now with Raven. Not specifically Col. Rebel, but as a general perception. Part of that general perception was Col. Rebel.

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The University of Mississippi is the flagship school. I'm not sure why that's hard to understand.

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Exactly.

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Why Ole Miss had to replace Col Reb (long)
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The real life model for Col Reb.

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WOW, you are right! I never recognized the similarities. I mean the only differences I see are: one is poor and beat down, the other is preppy and arrogant, one is blind and the other can see, one walks bent over and the other struts around with his chest pocked out, one has to feel his way around and the other has a gentleman's cane, one is black and the other is white, one represents the old poor share cropper and the other the elitist rich plantation owner, one has a worn and tattered jacket and the other has a finely pressed and tailored three piece suit. Butother than that the resemblance is uncanny

I read it. Here's my take. Fact is most of the people from MS are racist...now hear me out. I have lots of family from MS who I love greatly, but I am often shocked at the racist references they use and their deeply held believe that folks of color just aren't up to the same standards of intelligence and accomplishment as white folks. My relatives are all college educated, many Ole Miss grads. It is just assumed that this is common knowledge of all white folks.

A couple of years ago, I spent some time in the delta. I came home early because I just could not bear the racism that permeates the entire society and culture. I spoke with my 30 something cousin and told her how uncomfortable I felt and asked why is MS still this way...she told me, "There is so much hate between the races because of the history of violence between them, I don't know if it will ever change." Understand, every state still has racial issues...but Mississippi...it runs deep. Ole Miss has fielded teams for years where your best players were young black men...why they played for a school that waved the Confederate flag, sang Dixie, and had a mascot that looked like a plantation slave owner has always baffled the rest of us in the SEC. Mississippi is a beautiful state with many good people, but even the good people have a skewed attitude when it comes to race. That said, it's a good thing for OM to do what they did and kick Col Reb to the curb. I'm glad You all have a Louisiana Black Bear as your mascot...after all, they're an endangered species.

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WOW, you are right! I never recognized the similarities. I mean the only differences I see are: one is poor and beat down, the other is preppy and arrogant, one is blind and the other can see, one walks bent over and the other struts around with his chest pocked out, one has to feel his way around and the other has a gentleman's cane, one is black and the other is white, one represents the old poor share cropper and the other the elitist rich plantation owner, one has a worn and tattered jacket and the other has a finely pressed and tailored three piece suit. Butother than that the resemblance is uncanny

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Although I fricking hate you and think you're an antagonistic count, I agree with this post.

The whole "KERNEL REB IS MODELED AFTER BLIND JIM" as some sort of argument is stupid.

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I would love for us to get an real one to adopt and train to attack dumbass State fans upon walking onto campus while pissing on pictures of Billy Cannon and flipping off motherfrickers left and right.

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I might just rub one out tonight thinking of the awesomeness that this would be.

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he University of Mississippi is the flagship school. I'm not sure why that's hard to understand.

Generally, the flagship is a liberal arts college, and the second school is an ag/engineering school.

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Wrong! Its a loose term and can have several meanings
1) The phrase flagship campus or flagship university is often used with reference to state university systems in the United States, which often comprise numerous campuses in widely-separated locations. In this context, flagship means the original campus from which the system grew. Ole Miss and State are two different systems so they can both be considered flagships...as opposed to say MSU in Meridian.

2) The term can also mean the one school most in state students consider to be the best school in the state that is the most desirable to attend for a top student wanting an instate public school, then it stands to reason that flagship might take on a different meaning depending on the students interests/goals.

Besides if your claim to fame is that you are the liberal arts school then that is lame. I consider it much more valuable to have gotten a technical education than have spent four years reading poetry...then again I am an engineer so I may be biased.