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re: Why Ole Miss had to replace Col Reb (long)

Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by Toddy
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:29 pm to
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It's not just alumni, numbnuts. It's foundations and corporations, such as FedEx (built the new academic support building), Toyota (gave some money for the new engineering thing that's being built by the observatory), the Bancroft Fund (Croft Institute), Netscape (Honors College), et cetera.





You must not remember very well as the majority of the donations you just mentioned were committed PRIOR to Ole Miss getting rid of Colonel Reb.
Another campaign that ended around the year 2000 raised over half a billion dollars, BEFORE Colonel Reb was banished in 2003. Now, why don't you PROVE me wrong?
Also, you said Ole Miss didn't have a PBK chapter because of the rebel flag, which is a huge crock of shite.
I know more about Ole Miss than you can imagine,so if you wish to debate with facts, and not some made up shite to suit your purpose, we will.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:31 pm to
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You must not remember very well as the majority of the donations you just mentioned were committed PRIOR to Ole Miss getting rid of Colonel Reb.
Another campaign that ended around the year 2000 raised over half a billion dollars, BEFORE Colonel Reb was banished in 2003.


I guess they didn't care enough about Col. Reb to fight for him though. With all that money, Ole Miss would have kept him if they would have wanted him.





Once again....you're in the minority at Ole Miss. You may not realize it though because it's a VERY vocal minority.


Like I said before, while you're pissing and moaning over Col. Rebel the rest of us are moving on.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:35 pm to
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And this is why I see it has hurting the WHOLE state of Mississippi. It affects whether or not business or industry comes to MS. It affects tourism like whether the NCAA wants to host a tourney. Honestly, frick ole miss but people will associate the university with the state right or wrong.


Boom, pragmatism. That's what I like, Cdawg.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:38 pm to
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Also, you said Ole Miss didn't have a PBK chapter because of the rebel flag, which is a huge crock of shite.
I know more about Ole Miss than you can imagine,so if you wish to debate with facts, and not some made up shite to suit your purpose, we will


For a guy who apparently knows Sooooooo much about Ole Miss, you've obviously never read David Sansings Sesquicentennial History of The University of Mississippi, in which he elaborates upon the difficulties with establishing a Phi Beta Kappa chapter, difficulties which included the reluctance of PBK to associate with a school which so readily identified itself with the Confederate Flag.

You proudly thump your chest with your "facts" and, then, when somebody else presents facts all you do is go "NUH UH YOU ARE SO WRONG DUDE!!1"

Posted by Toddy
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:40 pm to
Right, and Toyota wasn't going to give money to Ole Miss because of Colonel Reb (as you insinuated).
Yet, they build a BILLION dollar plant in a state that has the Confederate Stars and Bars on its STATE FLAG.
Posted by AsphaltFunk
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:42 pm to

"You don't even have an original comeback. You're something else, you know that?"

First off, in order for a comeback i need to have been insulted, now if what you just said was your original comeback in response to my insult then well played sir, you win.

You have shown me something, at first when i was reading your posts i thought you were just the average douche-bag, but in light of recent events i now know that you are not, now i know that you are still a douche-bag that has seen Billy Madison and that you come up with, and are proud of, original comebacks. I'm sorry, that is just not a level of competition that i can compete with, so i concede.

Now for my opinion, the rebel was ole miss and will always be ole miss. Much like how most still refer to the peach bowl as the peach bowl. Changing it to a black bear, (which didn't racists old men back in the day call black slave children "cubs"? Might be false, always something i have heard), wont change a thing. Im sorry if you feel like the red-headed step child even though you believe that ole miss is the flagship of the state. But most of this is brought on upon by your own alumni and fanbase. Y'all are divided and i am loving every minute of it honestly. You cant change the past no matter how much of it you sweep under the carpet. Changing the rebel lost y'all donations, alumni support, and the klan rally. But most of all y'all lost your identity as a university and better have an immediate plan to turn this shite around.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:46 pm to
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Changing the rebel lost y'all donations, alumni support, and the klan rally.


No it didn't...it didn't cause any of that.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:46 pm to
I have. The MAIN reason that Ole Miss was denied a PBK chapter initially was the size of our library.
Why the hell do you think the J.D. Williams Library was expanded prior to the re-submission to PBK?

The University DISSOCIATED itself with the Confederate flag in 1982
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Now, please tell me about all these corporate donations that have been lost because of Colonel Reb.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:48 pm to
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Like I said before, while you're pissing and moaning over Col. Rebel the rest of us are moving on.

Posted by Toddy
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:49 pm to
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Once again....you're in the minority at Ole Miss. You may not realize it though because it's a VERY vocal minority.



Right. And, as recently as 2003, 94% of the students voted to retain Colonel Reb as the mascot.
Posted by AsphaltFunk
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:50 pm to
Are you sure it didnt change any of that?? So you still are having klan rallies huh? Damn y'all never learn
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:51 pm to
Since i got all the posters from the mississippi schools in one thread i have a question, is this a colonel reb sighting or not?
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:52 pm to
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Yet, they build a BILLION dollar plant in a state that has the Confederate Stars and Bars on its STATE FLAG.

How much has MS lost because of the Stars and Bars? I guess there's no way to answer that question though.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:54 pm to
Of course they did. But that was in 2003 when they were still in school with him on the sidelines.


I go back to what HT7 said the other day(think it was him)......

Col. Reb-tards keep pulling the "take it to a vote" card but sometimes voting isn't always the best thing to do. If it were, we wouldn't have Women's suffrage, Civil Rights, etc.


The fighting that you guys are putting up is the same exact fight we heard when the flags were banned.

And like I said before....If "traditions" were in fact the most important things, why don't we go back to a see of Conf. Flags and an actual Conf. soldier on the sidelines instead of Col. Rebel. It's extremely hypocritical of you to be so pro-Col. Reb yet not be pushing even harder for a guy in a Conf. uniform on the sidelines.


....After all, that was our mascot a hell of a lot longer than the Col. Rebel you love so much.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:55 pm to
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AsphaltFunk


You're either a complete idiot or a horrible troll. Either way....
Posted by inelishaitrust
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:57 pm to
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Right. And, as recently as 2003, 94% of the students voted to retain Colonel Reb as the mascot.


In 2010, the students voted for Rebel the Black Bear.

Posted by AsphaltFunk
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:57 pm to
Neither just love how pissed off y'all get at this stuff, so so defensive. Move on, who gives a shite about Col Reb
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:58 pm to
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In 2010, the students voted for Rebel the Black Bear.


Boom.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:58 pm to
Well, then if we're going to move on, we've got to change everything.

I have football programs from the 1950's that clearly state the term "Ole Miss' was derived from an antebellum term that slaves used to refer to the mistress of the plantation ('the "ole Miss"). It was used to denote a genteel Southern lady. The university didn't start using the "Ole Miss was the name suggested by Miss Elma Meek of Oxford to name the yearbook in 1897" spiel until the 1970's.
It has to go as well, because it's just as offensive (if not more so) than Colonel Reb. Don't you agree this should be the next project for the Chancellor? Or, maybe you and DC Rebel can tell me how this is different?
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:58 pm to
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Neither just love how pissed off y'all get at this stuff, so so defensive. Move on, who gives a shite about Col Reb



The only people who get pissed off at it is Col. Reb supporters. I, on the other hand, just don't have shite to do today.

Completely agree with the last sentence though.
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