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re: Why is Vanderbilt in the SEC?
Posted on 12/14/20 at 11:36 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Posted on 12/14/20 at 11:36 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
They have 2 more Nattys in mens sports that UGA does in the last 40 years chief. Despite having no Athletics Department at all. They also give us something only the Pac 12 has. A participating institution of academic prestige on the level of Stanford. Congrats on actually beating Muschamp this year.
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 11:41 pm to HempHead
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Sewanee
I wonder where they’d be if they’d hung around...
Posted on 12/14/20 at 11:42 pm to turnpiketiger
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You do realize that the SEC is more than just football right? There’s actual universities associated with each football program.
This made me laugh way too hard
Posted on 12/15/20 at 5:29 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
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is Vanderbilt in the SEC?
Baseball and to raise all of our GPAs
Posted on 12/15/20 at 6:40 am to HalfCocked
Where else can lesbian soccer players play football?
Posted on 12/15/20 at 7:12 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
This could be total b/s, but I heard someone say somewhere that conferences generally want at least one private school (ex Vanderbilt, Baylor, Stanford) so that financials/revenues benefitted in some way due to at least one entity being a private institution.
I can't remember exactly what that benefit was - whether it was visibility/privacy to financial routings or something along those lines.
Anyways, there's my "I have no idea what I'm talking about but listen to this" moment.
I can't remember exactly what that benefit was - whether it was visibility/privacy to financial routings or something along those lines.
Anyways, there's my "I have no idea what I'm talking about but listen to this" moment.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 8:42 am to Daowna
I think it has more to do with privacy of information. The conference isn’t obligated to provide info through the FOIA requests since there is a private institution involved.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 9:40 am to UTprideofTX
CASH....SEC Teams share cash in various categories
Posted on 12/15/20 at 9:51 am to Daowna
quote:Back at the height of the Southwest Conference cheating scandals (SMU was target #1 at the time), the Dallas Morning News (IIRC) tried to make a public records request for conference documents. The case went to court, and the SWC won on the basis that, because it included both private and public institutions, the conference itself was not a governmental entity. I believe there was dicta stating that, if a conference were to compose entirely of governmental entities, then the conference itself would be an inter-governmental entity whose records would have to be public. This is why all the conferences want to have at least one private school as a member. Otherwise, their TV contracts, internal communications, and other sensitive documents would be public records.
This could be total b/s, but I heard someone say somewhere that conferences generally want at least one private school (ex Vanderbilt, Baylor, Stanford) so that financials/revenues benefitted in some way due to at least one entity being a private institution.
I can't remember exactly what that benefit was - whether it was visibility/privacy to financial routings or something along those lines.
Anyways, there's my "I have no idea what I'm talking about but listen to this" moment
Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:01 am to twk
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This is why all the conferences want to have at least one private school as a member. Otherwise, their TV contracts, internal communications, and other sensitive documents would be public records.
Winner, winner chicken dinner. If Vandy left the conference the SEC would move heaven and hell to grab another private school as quickly as possible.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:24 am to TarnishedWisdom90
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They actually win national titles too you know?
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 12:04 pm to BQAG02
How much money is the conference making? Seriously.
The revenues get split up and go to the schools. Other than what would normally be split off for admin expenses (I'm guessing 2% is the standard for a pass through agency), I doubt the conference is keeping anything.
"Secrecy" is kind of dumb when all of the money is going to public universities (+1 private)
The revenues get split up and go to the schools. Other than what would normally be split off for admin expenses (I'm guessing 2% is the standard for a pass through agency), I doubt the conference is keeping anything.
"Secrecy" is kind of dumb when all of the money is going to public universities (+1 private)
Posted on 12/15/20 at 12:15 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
This thread is a bad idea.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 12:15 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Easy. SEC needs at least one private school with smart people.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 12:58 pm to Old Money
I can’t stand idiots who think conference alignments are all about football. They’d be like “oh yeah let’s get USC and Notre Dame in the SEC and kick out vandy and Carolina because they suck”. Just disregarding all variables such as academics, other sports, tv markets and geography.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 1:06 pm to turnpiketiger
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can’t stand idiots who think conference alignments are all about football. They’d be like “oh yeah let’s get USC and Notre Dame in the SEC and kick out vandy and Carolina because they suck”. Just disregarding all variables such as academics, other sports, tv markets and geography.
You dont think the SEC can do better than Vandy?
Or the 88 year tradition with Vandy makes the leech worth it?
Posted on 12/15/20 at 1:08 pm to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Someone long ago made a decision that they would be in. I always think, those people who made those decisions don't get nearly enough credit. OM and State should build a statue of them 
Posted on 12/15/20 at 1:10 pm to meansonny
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You dont think the SEC can do better than Vandy?
Name one realistic option that would fit the SEC mold and has half of the academic name Vandy has oh and is located in a city that’s fun to visit like Nashville.
Don’t even think about Bevo. If anything those guys need to be independent
Posted on 12/15/20 at 2:18 pm to turnpiketiger
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Name one realistic option that would fit the SEC mold and has half of the academic name Vandy has oh and is located in a city that’s fun to visit like Nashville.
Lol
Fit the SEC mold?
What mold?
I dont see a mold?
Does mizzou fit in a mold?
A&m?
What mold looks like South Carolina? Arkansas? Miss st?
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and has half of the academic name Vandy
What SEC schools have half of an academic name as Vandy? Which ones dont? And why is this relevant?
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is located in a city that’s fun to visit like Nashville.
Is Vegas in the SEC? Austin? Miami?
Do all of the fun towns need an invite? Do we get to kick out starkvegas and Columbia's?
Your questioning is pointless.
We have no mold (as if vandy fit some kind of mold anyway).
Ole Miss and Miss St laugh at your academics.
And fun towns are fun towns. You are free to visit them even if they dont have a football team.
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Don’t even think about Bevo.
Lol
In the SEC, it just means more. Unless your school is Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt doesnt give a shite. There are about 100 schools who would give their left nut to be where Vandy is in our conference. As long as it means more to them... I'd swap.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 2:33 pm to BQAG02
If that's the case, then the ACC is overdoing it a little.
They have 6 private schools.
They have 6 private schools.
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