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Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:21 pm to The Mick
Cheats more, harder
Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:21 pm to The Mick
He continues to evolve as a coach. Learning and implementing , while staying true to his basic philosophy.
Saban has stated a few times about the things he learned while in Miami along with the new perspective it gave him.
Saban has stated a few times about the things he learned while in Miami along with the new perspective it gave him.
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Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:22 pm to ohiovol
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Because everyone already knew he was a national championship caliber coach. That's how he was able to start recruiting at such a ridiculous level so quickly. That's really all there is to it.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:25 pm to diddydirtyAubie
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LSU wasn't a name brand before Saban. Alabama has always been name brand.
Sort of this. LSU was pretty good historically, but they weren't a big bad name brand that everyone knew would eventually make a comeback like people could say with Bama. It was only a matter of time before Bama would be at the top of the nation again, and as soon as Saban was hired the shite hit the fan for the rest of the FBS.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:25 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Henry Jones Jr
Why is Saban even better at Bama than he was at LSU?
He rebuilt LSU's program. He didn't have to rebuild Bama's.
Worm diarrhea.
(1) How in the hell can you "rebuild a program" that 2 years before had just finished a 3 straight year streak of 27 wins, 3 consecutive bowl games, 3 consecutive bowl victories, and 2 national rankings ???
(2) LSU had numerous players from the '98-'99 losing seasons drafted by the NFL.
(3) Many of Dinardo's players from the '98 and '99 losing seasons started and/or played significant roles in Saban's Peach bowl team of 2000 and his SEC Champ Sugar Bowl team of 2001.
There were even a few on his NC team of '03.
(4) And what happened in 2002 ? Saban's LSU team was routed and lost BADLY TO FOUR teams: Va.Tech, Alabama, Auburn, and Texas; as well as an embarrassing 2-Hail Mary pass loss to Arkansas in the final 30 seconds.....
(5) If he didn't have to rebuild Bama's program, how in hell did he lose to Louisiana-Monroe ???
Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:26 pm to elposter
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1. He had to kind of build his reputation at LSU. When he came to Alabama, he already had the reputation and clout and had immediate dramatic success in recruiting (thanks in large part to his LSU success).
I think he also responded positively to a little humbling in the NFL - and that may have refreshed his desire to be great at the college level
Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:26 pm to The Mick
The serious answer is that the 2 year NFL detour was exactly what Saban needed. Saban had one eye on the NFL the entire time he was at LSU. His ultimate goal was always to coach in the NFL. He was always flirting with it and it was a distraction if anyone wants to admit it or not.
He realized at Miami that college football was his love and he was made to coach in college. When he went to Bama he was super focused and re-energized. While his recruiting was outstanding at LSU, he has really gone over the top at Bama.
He is recruiting at an unbelievable pace at Bama, because he is completely focused and there are no more serious rumors of his going to the NFL every single year that did hurt his recruiting a bit at LSU.
He realized at Miami that college football was his love and he was made to coach in college. When he went to Bama he was super focused and re-energized. While his recruiting was outstanding at LSU, he has really gone over the top at Bama.
He is recruiting at an unbelievable pace at Bama, because he is completely focused and there are no more serious rumors of his going to the NFL every single year that did hurt his recruiting a bit at LSU.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:27 pm to elposter
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1. He had to kind of build his reputation at LSU. When he came to Alabama, he already had the reputation and clout and had immediate dramatic success in recruiting (thanks in large part to his LSU success).
2. He's become a better coach with experience.
3. Alabama football is more of a brand name than LSU football so it helps any coach that coaches there. Just the facts.
This covers 99% of it.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:29 pm to The Mick
great. another one of these threads
Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:37 pm to The Mick
Had Saban stayed at LSU the results would have been similar. The difference is that Saban had nothing to prove when he arrived at Bama. The recruits already knew what he was made of.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:37 pm to Henry Jones Jr
quote:Were you alive prior to 5 years ago?
He rebuilt LSU's program. He didn't have to rebuild Bama's.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:39 pm to dkreller
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Had Saban stayed at LSU the results would have been similar. The difference is that Saban had nothing to prove when he arrived at Bama. The recruits already knew what he was made of.
I think LSU would have at least one or two more national championships by now.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:41 pm to ohiovol
I meant similar to what has happened at Bama.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:42 pm to MetryTyger
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(5) If he didn't have to rebuild Bama's program, how in hell did he lose to Louisiana-Monroe ???
I tend to think that Shula did a slightly better than average job at evaluating and signing talent.
However, his staff was weak in technique and discipline. It took well over a year for Saban to root out the slackers and attitude problems. He might not have had as much to "rebuild" but he definitely had to educate the Bama players on "The Process".
Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:42 pm to Alahunter
In addition to the other reasons listed Saban also coaches in a more central location, allowing him to recruit both the bayou (Eddie Lacy/Landon Collins) and the east coast. Today a kid from just outside of DC commited (Allen,Asburn,VA). Eariler he got a verbal from a Philadelphia area db (Averett Woodbury,NJ)
This post was edited on 5/21/12 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:44 pm to Choctaw
quote:Exit thread then chump.
great. another one of these threads
Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:44 pm to The Mick
Better staff, football culture.
He got better at Bama, while he had his hiccups at LSU (blowout loss at UGA comes to mind).
He got better at Bama, while he had his hiccups at LSU (blowout loss at UGA comes to mind).
Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:45 pm to The Mick
The fans.
Alabama fans > LSU fans
Alabama fans > LSU fans
Posted on 5/21/12 at 3:46 pm to RollTide4Ever
quote:I cant really agree with this. He had some ridiculous assistants while at LSU.
Better staff, football culture.
I think the idea of him having clout now is legit. He recruited well at LSU but now these fricks are lining up for him.
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