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Why is Ed Orgeron only slightly worse than Mike Shula, but much worse than Nick Saban?

Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:41 pm
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:41 pm
Ed Orgeron at Ole Miss
2005 Alabama L 10-13
2006 at Alabama L 23–26 (OT)
2007 Alabama L 24–27

AVG PTS FOR: 19
AVG PTS AGAINST: 22
AVG MARGIN: -3

Ed Orgeron at LSU
2016 Alabama L 0-10
2017 at Alabama L 10-24
2018 Alabama L 0-29
2019 at Alabama W 46–41

AVG PTS FOR: 14
AVG PTS AGAINST: 26
AVG MARGIN: -12

Ed Orgeron Overall

vs Mike Shula 0-2
vs Nick Saban 1-4
vs Alabama 1-6

Against Alabama, two of Orgeron's three games at Ole Miss were against Mike Shula, of which Orgeron lost both, but by closer margins (one was in overtime).

Obviously this means Orgeron is only slightly worse than Mike Shula, but why is he so much more worse than Nick Saban as a head coach?

Also, he also did better at Ole Miss against Alabama, in terms of points, points given up, and margin of victory.

Why did he have so much more success against Alabama at Ole Miss, even against Nick Saban?
Posted by hg
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:42 pm to
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Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:42 pm to
I'm parking my car here. Let's see the jimmies rustled; it's not like we have any actual sports to watch.
Posted by AHM21
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:43 pm to
Who wasn't good against Shula?

Auburn, LSU and Tennessee owned Alabama in that span.
Posted by TrueLefty
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:44 pm to
What? This is new generation! Going back to the past does not matter what Orgeron is doing now at LSU!
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

Who wasn't good against Shula?

Ed Orgeron
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by AHM21
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

Ed Orgeron



I mean, yeah, but comparing that Ed O to 2020 Ed O is a clear and weak troll attempt.

Of course he's going to do better against Shula as opposed to Saban. My original point being, who wouldn't? Shula was an average coach and Saban is Saban.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:47 pm to
Mike Shula owned him some Mississippi

3-0 vs Southern Miss
3-1 vs Ole Miss
3-1 vs Mississippi State

9-2 vs The Sip



Mike Shula did not own him some anyone who mattered

2-13 vs Auburn, LSU, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 3:51 pm
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

Shula was an average coach

quote:

Ed Orgeron Overall vs Mike Shula 0-2

So you're saying Orgeron is below average?
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 3:50 pm
Posted by victoire sécurisé
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:49 pm to
Reigning national champ can’t even boast a winning record against Mike Price. Fire O.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

I mean, yeah, but comparing that Ed O to 2020 Ed O is a clear and weak troll attempt. 


Not sure how Ole Miss O is even relevant to LSU O.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
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Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:53 pm to
Because Nick Saban is much, much better than Mike Shula, didn't you learn the transitive property for judging CFB Coaches back in HS?
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

Not sure how Ole Miss O is even relevant to LSU O

It's the same coach.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

It's the same coach.





Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

It's the same coach.

Tell him about it Jojo

Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

Not sure how Ole Miss O is even relevant to LSU O

It's the same coach.

Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 4:17 pm to


There’s just something different about Orgeron since he left North Mississippi. I can’t quite put my finger on it.
Posted by JGTiger
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 4:23 pm to
Saban lost to Gerry DiNardo his first year at Mich St.
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