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re: Why do we bother really?

Posted on 9/9/18 at 8:54 pm to
Posted by MOJO_ERASER
Tulsa Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2017
5839 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 8:54 pm to
The reason you play is because even though history does in fact repeat among the great teams, every once in a while a team that isn’t suppose to win does and when it happens it’s great! We was losing to UCLA 7-0 lost our starting running back and heisman candidate and I was thinking wow could this really happen? Of course it didn’t but anything is possible anything.
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10476 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 8:56 pm to
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Bama and Georgia play such a joke schedule that they are virtually assured a spot.

Wow, I didn't realize Georgia's schedule this year is as easy (or easier) than Bama's. It's a joke, by design, and it's a racket.
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15229 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 8:57 pm to
I see you've been busy on here tonight.
Posted by BamaSaint
Mobile, Al
Member since Mar 2013
2960 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 8:59 pm to
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TNTigerman

My God, the pussies have flocked to this thread. Figures LSU fans would relate to this USC melt. The OP reads a lot like a post Alabama/LSU tiger rant melt
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 8:59 pm to
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Wow, I didn't realize Georgia's schedule this year is as easy (or easier) than Bama's. It's a joke, by design, and it's a racket.


No team in the west can laugh at uga's schedule.

The reasoning is because no other west team goes on the road to 2 power OOC teams during the same season. When is the last time that a west team has done that?

Hell... we have even scheduled 3 power 5 teams in the same year ooc.

We have the annual rivalry with GT. Schedule extra home and homes before you start bitching.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24153 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:03 pm to
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I said this last night, but it was more fun following the Gamecocks in 1998 and 1999 when we lost 21 straight than it is now when we're an 8-4 team.


Y'all have actually never had a better chance. There's more rules in place than ever before to try to stop the blue bloods from killing everyone. Imagine Saban without scholarship restrictions.

Posted by BranchDawg
Flowery Branch
Member since Nov 2013
9830 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:05 pm to
I'm not sure I get your issue...

Your complaint seems to be that the same programs win and the same programs lose. Ok, I guess, fair enough, but the idea that G5 schools like Western Kentucky and Marshall were in the same "class" of college football as the P5 schools was always a sham, and I think everybody has always understood that.

As for the same schools winning every year, let's take a look at other major sports:

56% of Super Bowls have been won by the Steelers, Cowboys, 49ers, Patriots, Packers and Giants. That's 18% of the league.

The Lakers and Celtics alone have won almost half of all NBA titles (33 of 72), and 5 franchises (16% of the league) have won almost 70% of the championships.

The Yankees have won a FOURTH of all World Series championships, and 5 franchises (again, 16% of the majors) have combined for over half of all World Series titles.

Montreal has almost a fourth of all Stanley Cups won, and 5 franchises have won 60% of all titles.

This happens in all sports. Inevitably, a select few teams win all the championships, and there's a select few within that select few. This is actually a mathematical phenomenon that happens in almost every applicable situation, not just sports. Usually, the top 10 to 20 percent of a group gains 50 or more percent of the success. And about 10 of 20 percent of that 10 or 20 percent get 50 or more percent of the success within THAT group. You can look this up, it's a real thing that people have done studies on.

In major college football (P5 schools), 6 teams have won about 43% of all national champions attributed to schools currently in FBS. That's about 10% of the teams. Right on cue.

What you are seeing is what naturally occurs both in sports and the world at large. It's a byproduct of competition and distribution.
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 9:06 pm
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10476 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:06 pm to
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Hell... we have even scheduled 3 power 5 teams in the same year ooc.


I'm talking about this year, fool.

Your 2018 schedule is a joke, and you know it.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:07 pm to
It is the competence hierarchy and Matthew principle.
Posted by BranchDawg
Flowery Branch
Member since Nov 2013
9830 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:07 pm to
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It is the competence hierarchy and Matthew principle.


Ayyyy, that's the name I was looking for

Couldn't remember what the frick it was called
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 9:09 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:08 pm to
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I'm talking about this year, fool.

Your 2018 schedule is a joke, and you know it.


We've got GT. You've faced them in a bowl recently. So your program has achieved similar levels of success as the jackets.

They are a lot like playing LSU.
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 9:10 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39994 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:12 pm to
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And there is no way in hell he will ever sign that kind of class here.


Most teams have never even come close. But I believe that USC is trending in the right direction and is in close proximity to some high quality talent. Hell, if Clemson can get that kind of talent then why can't USC.

quote:

No way in hell some crackerjack playcaller with an innovative system could beat a team like Alabama these days.



shite, Freeze did it two years in a row at OM.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37613 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

by BranchDawg

Nice post.

Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39994 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:14 pm to
frick off, we deserve an easy year. We've played the most away games against P5 teams in the last ten years.
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

What you are seeing is what naturally occurs both in sports and the world at large. It's a byproduct of competition and distribution.



Given that, I'll repeat the title I gave to this thread:

"Why do we bother really?"

If we have a game (in a mathematical sense), and the odds are against you, why play? The winning move is to walk away, and spend resources on something where the odds are more in your favor - if you engage in athletics at all.

Then too, I've brought this up before, the majority of football programs are money losers, not assets.

Depending on which study you look at, there are only 10 to 20 programs in America that run a net profit on football.

And those few winners are the usual familiar names.

So in essence schools like South Carolina are playing the Washington Generals to schools like Bama, and doing it at a financial loss.

If anyone is curious you can search my name and see the post I put this up in, it was a few months back or so. Not going to search those links again.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:18 pm to
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Then too, I've brought this up before, the majority of football programs are money losers, not assets.


A lot of money goes to non revenue producing sports.
You can believe what you want to believe. But the goal of a university isn't to turn a profit.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

Then too, I've brought this up before, the majority of football programs are money losers, not assets.

No...

LINK
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:22 pm to
And the gamecock said it best.

Why is rocky a great movie?
Star wars?

The little guy pulling out the 1 in a million.

It is as real as fiction (chuck wepner, 91 braves, 80 us hockey team).

If you don't resonate to those stories, then you aren't in the frame of mind to enjoy anything unless you bandwagon a dynasty.
Posted by REBSontheRISE
Member since Nov 2008
4420 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

No way in hell some crackerjack playcaller with an innovative system could beat a team like Alabama these days.


quote:

shite, Freeze did it two years in a row at OM.



and Freeze paid a heavy price for playing the same game that the bluebloods play for free.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111510 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 9:26 pm to
This is all kinda spot on.

Teams can play for that once in a two decade shot at the big game which might get them to that mountain top experience.

But it’s mostly not happening.

If that’s too much, turn it off and find a better Saturday pastime.
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