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Why do Vols tolerate Heupel?

Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:32 pm
Posted by Vulcan Materials
Member since May 2022
1512 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:32 pm
He’s Brian Kelly. He’s James Franklin.

He’s the inverse of a goat coach that’s earned their 10+ shite seasons to run the program into the ground. He’s the kind of coach to keep the Vols peaking over the fence but never able to climb over it.

Just because you’ve lived on dirt pies and Indian street food since Phil Fulmer and John Chavis left town doesn’t mean you have to like it. Vanderbilt just had dollar store Johnny football as their QB and their coach is giga chad Clark Lea (who is a Vandy grad btw).

When are you gonna look in the mirror and ask how you were gaslit into allowing a fat Oklahoma QB to be your coach for 5 seasons?
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71541 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:35 pm to
He was the first coach to defeat Alabama in a decade and a half. That's why.
Posted by GarnetNBlack
Member since Feb 2026
81 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:36 pm to
Tenn:

2021: 7–6
2022: 11–2
2023: 9–4
2024: 10–3
2025: 8–5
This post was edited on 7/18/26 at 8:39 pm
Posted by morriscat2
tennessee
Member since Jun 2012
2328 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:36 pm to
May he have a long tenure at UT!
Posted by GarnetNBlack
Member since Feb 2026
81 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:42 pm to
LSU:

2021 6–7
2022 10–4
2023 10–3
2024 9–4
2025 7–6
This post was edited on 7/18/26 at 8:45 pm
Posted by themicah85
DALLAS TX
Member since Jul 2015
3543 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:43 pm to
Our administration kept hiring tards. Yall aren't exactly killing either
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
24287 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:44 pm to
If he gets a legit QB no one is going to want to deal with the Vols.

He just hasnt had one since Hendon Hooker.
Posted by themicah85
DALLAS TX
Member since Jul 2015
3543 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:48 pm to
Whats south carolinas record in that same time? Does beamer still have q job?
Posted by Landmass
Premium Member
Member since Jun 2013
25869 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:49 pm to
Best Tennessee coach in 20 years. Who else would they get?
Posted by GarnetNBlack
Member since Feb 2026
81 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

Whats south carolinas record in that same time? Does beamer still have q job?


Not sure what a “q” job is but unless you’ve been under a rock, Beamer is still the coach at USC. However, that has absolutely nothing to do with the OP’s post.

And, because you missed my point, LSU and Tenn have roughly the same record over the past 5 years (see posts above). LSU deemed it time to move on from Kelly for various reasons.

The question the OP states is whether or not it’s time for Tenn to move on from Heupel.

I don’t think so.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
5196 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

He’s Brian Kelly. He’s James Franklin.


He’s better than Kalen DeBoer

Your coach’s name is Kalen and he sucks
Posted by themicah85
DALLAS TX
Member since Jul 2015
3543 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 8:58 pm to
It was meant to say beamer. Im drinking. I apologize. Hiring and firing coaches off of the whip of our hip has not worked out for us so we're trying a different approach..
Posted by BengalShark
Member since Jul 2017
4439 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

He’s Brian Kelly. He’s James Franklin.


I’d even throw in He’s a Kalen DeBoer

Posted by GarnetNBlack
Member since Feb 2026
81 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 9:03 pm to
No problem.

Drive safely.

And I agree. . .firing a coach as good as Heupel at this juncture is not a smart move. If he has another poor year, then I’m sure Tenn fans will become more vocal. As a USC fan, I’d have taken him in a heartbeat five years ago.
Posted by themicah85
DALLAS TX
Member since Jul 2015
3543 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 9:27 pm to
To address the original question. I dont think he is in the firing realm , just yet. We as Tennessee fans want him to win as much as we could. We hope. However we also realize that the bottom is a lot deeper than we ever realized
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
4944 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

If he gets a legit QB no one is going to want to deal with the Vols.

He just hasnt had one since Hendon Hooker.


It's not so much about the QB. Heupel runs the Art Briles offense. Everything is pre-determined before the ball is snapped. There are no "reads" for the QB to make after the ball is snapped, and if it's a pass they're only using one side of the field. It's one of the reasons his QBs usually suck after they make it to the league. If you can stop the run without putting extra defenders in the box you shut it down entirely. They need better recruiting across the board, especially on the lines.
Posted by GreenieTiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
810 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

Vanderbilt just had dollar store Johnny football as their QB
And Manziel was a dollar store Brett Favre, so does that make Pablo San Diego a penny?
Posted by GarnetNBlack
Member since Feb 2026
81 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

It's not so much about the QB. Heupel runs the Art Briles offense. Everything is pre-determined before the ball is snapped. There are no "reads" for the QB to make after the ball is snapped, and if it's a pass they're only using one side of the field. It's one of the reasons his QBs usually suck after they make it to the league. If you can stop the run without putting extra defenders in the box you shut it down entirely. They need better recruiting across the board, especially on the lines.


I like your observations. This is probably for another thread but since USC just hired K. Briles as OC, including his offensive line coach (for many years), we are very interested to see how the offense, particularly the OL and QB (Sellers) will respond. It HAS to be an upgrade over Shula but just how much is what everyone at USC is waiting to see.
Posted by themicah85
DALLAS TX
Member since Jul 2015
3543 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

It's not so much about the QB. Heupel runs the Art Briles offense. Everything is pre-determined before the ball is snapped. There are no "reads" for the QB to make after the ball is snapped, and if it's a pass they're only using one side of the field. It's one of the reasons his QBs usually suck after they make it to the league. If you can stop the run without putting extra defenders in the box you shut it down entirely. They need better recruiting across the board, especially on the lines.




I can give you a quick rundown of how it's gonna work out. if the quarterback's good, it's gonna be great. If not, then you're gonna be 3 and out in 37 seconds..
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
5196 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

Everything is pre-determined before the ball is snapped. There are no "reads" for the QB to make after the ball is snapped,


No it’s not lol. His scheme does simplify decision making based on pre-snap reads, but there are still reads and decisions made by the QB post-snap. You have no idea what you’re talking about

quote:

It's one of the reasons his QBs usually suck after they make it to the league.


The only QB he’s had with legitimate NFL talent was Nico who was an inconsistent freshman. I could definitely see the argument that his scheme may not prepare QBs for the NFL, but we’re talking about a small sample size of not great talent

quote:

If you can stop the run without putting extra defenders in the box you shut it down entirely.


You’re describing almost all football offenses
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