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re: Why do Mizzou fans have so much less animosity toward the Big12 than Ags?
Posted on 5/8/15 at 12:27 pm to TeLeFaWx
Posted on 5/8/15 at 12:27 pm to TeLeFaWx
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There are no tie breakers for anything beyond first place.
says every loser of any game in which they have played and have matching records.
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 4:32 pm to NGATiger
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Why do Mizzou fans have so much less animosity toward the Big12 than Ags?
who says we do?
You haven't met me obviously.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 4:35 pm to Jagd Tiger
Calling into Finebaum right now...
Posted on 5/8/15 at 4:58 pm to mizzoukills
in the timeline of moving to the SEC we have put up with..
"Their best year >< as our worst year"
"Screw Mo, we don't want them anyway"
"We're committed to our old conference friends" (day later) "we won't be wallflowers"
cheating beaks..
in not so recent memory,,
cheating Doctor Tom
cheating Barry Switzer
5th downs, kicked balls and cheating beaks
just exactly what is it we are supposed to miss so much?
Trips to Iowa?
Posted on 5/8/15 at 5:57 pm to Farmer1906
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The AGs help create the SEC's 600 million dollar problem with the SECN. I'm sure they're hating life with all this money to lap the field again.
Exactly, it was smart of the SEC to recruit us in. We bring more money and national attention to the SEC. I'll deem this good.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 6:02 pm to L S Usetheforce
Only a real Pû$$ÿ would claim a 2nd place tiebreaker.
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 5/8/15 at 6:14 pm to Jagd Tiger
I have a little personal knowledge of what happened regarding Texas A&M's exit... I won't speak for Mizzou, but it is generally known that uTx is a terrible conference partner whose modus operandi has always been to tilt the playing field to their advantage without regard to sportsmanship and by any and all means available, no matter how unscrupulous. For example,
Recently Nebraska was cheated out of a Big XII title when tUx ran out the clock, but officials actually added time after game expiration to give tUx a shot at an easy field goal. Nebraska was livid, and rightly so.
Back to Texas A&M, in the early 90s A&M wanted to join the SEC, LSU and Joe Dean was going to help sponsor us in (much like Coach Stallings and Bama did for us this time).
However, it wasn't kept close to the vest and tUx, baylor and tech were able to extort out continued membership by legislative means, and some funding issues.
Fast forward to the Nebraska championship debacle. They had had enough of Texas cheating and gaining unfair advantages... something we were used to for 100 years. They left ASAP for the Big 10, and were willing to pay anything to get away from Texas.
As Nebraska left, Texas started negotiating with the PAC, but by themselves, without Texas A&M (or any of the other schools to be realigned) represented.
When Texas A&M learned Texas was presuming to negotiate for us, we were outraged, but kept it close to the vest.
With Texas trying to leave, we saw the chance we had been waiting for. We contacted Coach Stallings and he used his position as somebody recognized and respected in the SEC to advocate for us. An arrangement was made... if Texas went to the PAC, we were going to the SEC.
This caused Texas to go back to the PAC, knowing Texas A&M would never follow and ask for an unequal revenue distribution, as well as retention of their own 3rd tier rights, knowing full well that was against PAC by-laws.
We advised Colorado on the QT that they would be glad later if they left the Big XII now. They fell right into the PAC expansion plan.
Then Texas game back and claimed they "saved" the Big XII... and wanted sole 3rd tier rights to their games for their precious (now worthless) Longhorn Network. The conference voted on the acceptable parameters for individual 3rd tier rights, which passed with two (2) games allowed televised per year. Knowing them and their cheating ways, we knew they would not abide by that agreement, and they didn't. Soon 2 games changed to 3, and suddenly they wanted to broadcast high school content, giving them an obvious recruiting advantage.
Texas A&M now had a plan to get out that nobody could stop (although baylor tried). After.petitioning the NCAA regarding unfair recruiting advantage Texas was trying to gain (NCAA agreed), our work was finished. We sunk their attempted recruiting scam, and THEN reopened negotiation with our SEC friends. Less than a year later we were in the SEC West.
We kind of did a number on them and left their sorry asses high and dry, in the process our income and recruiting boomed while they are continuing to circle the drain.
Recently Nebraska was cheated out of a Big XII title when tUx ran out the clock, but officials actually added time after game expiration to give tUx a shot at an easy field goal. Nebraska was livid, and rightly so.
Back to Texas A&M, in the early 90s A&M wanted to join the SEC, LSU and Joe Dean was going to help sponsor us in (much like Coach Stallings and Bama did for us this time).
However, it wasn't kept close to the vest and tUx, baylor and tech were able to extort out continued membership by legislative means, and some funding issues.
Fast forward to the Nebraska championship debacle. They had had enough of Texas cheating and gaining unfair advantages... something we were used to for 100 years. They left ASAP for the Big 10, and were willing to pay anything to get away from Texas.
As Nebraska left, Texas started negotiating with the PAC, but by themselves, without Texas A&M (or any of the other schools to be realigned) represented.
When Texas A&M learned Texas was presuming to negotiate for us, we were outraged, but kept it close to the vest.
With Texas trying to leave, we saw the chance we had been waiting for. We contacted Coach Stallings and he used his position as somebody recognized and respected in the SEC to advocate for us. An arrangement was made... if Texas went to the PAC, we were going to the SEC.
This caused Texas to go back to the PAC, knowing Texas A&M would never follow and ask for an unequal revenue distribution, as well as retention of their own 3rd tier rights, knowing full well that was against PAC by-laws.
We advised Colorado on the QT that they would be glad later if they left the Big XII now. They fell right into the PAC expansion plan.
Then Texas game back and claimed they "saved" the Big XII... and wanted sole 3rd tier rights to their games for their precious (now worthless) Longhorn Network. The conference voted on the acceptable parameters for individual 3rd tier rights, which passed with two (2) games allowed televised per year. Knowing them and their cheating ways, we knew they would not abide by that agreement, and they didn't. Soon 2 games changed to 3, and suddenly they wanted to broadcast high school content, giving them an obvious recruiting advantage.
Texas A&M now had a plan to get out that nobody could stop (although baylor tried). After.petitioning the NCAA regarding unfair recruiting advantage Texas was trying to gain (NCAA agreed), our work was finished. We sunk their attempted recruiting scam, and THEN reopened negotiation with our SEC friends. Less than a year later we were in the SEC West.
We kind of did a number on them and left their sorry asses high and dry, in the process our income and recruiting boomed while they are continuing to circle the drain.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 6:37 pm to 13-0 Branding Iron
The story I've heard from most Nubs is they left because big bad Mizzou was flirting with the B1G and they were worried about destabilizing after Mizzou's departure. I wish they'd get their story straight.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 7:46 pm to 13-0 Branding Iron
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13-0 Branding Iron
Don't be a stranger and join us on the Texas A&M Sports Board sometime, bruh
Posted on 5/8/15 at 7:50 pm to 13-0 Branding Iron
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Recently Nebraska was cheated out of a Big XII title when tUx ran out the clock, but officials actually added time after game expiration to give tUx a shot at an easy field goal. Nebraska was livid, and rightly so.
The rules state that every play is reviewable for egregious errors. There were several points in that game that play was stopped to put time back on the clock. It happens. Just because it was the presumed last play of the game doesn't mean it doesn't count.
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The winning kick came one play after game officials used replay review to restore one second on the clock, which showed 0:00 after an incomplete pass by Texas triggered a premature victory celebration by Nebraska players. The rule that allowed the final play is Rule 12, Section 3, Article 6.
After outlining the limitations on reviewable plays, the rule says: “The replay official may correct egregious errors, including those involving the game clock, whether or not a play is reviewable.”
LINK
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Fast forward to the Nebraska championship debacle. They had had enough of Texas cheating and gaining unfair advantages...
Nebraska voted for both individual networks and unequal revenue distribution. Those were the two issues brought up in their reasoning to leave, and they look like hypocrites doing so.
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This caused Texas to go back to the PAC, knowing Texas A&M would never follow and ask for an unequal revenue distribution, as well as retention of their own 3rd tier rights, knowing full well that was against PAC by-laws.
So? They knew what they had with the Big 12 and wanted to see whether the PAC would match it. They couldn't, or wouldn't. Such is business. Stop whining.
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The conference voted on the acceptable parameters for individual 3rd tier rights, which passed with two (2) games allowed televised per year.
There was only a limit on how many conference games could be on the network, not on non-conference. One conference game was the limit agreed upon, unless both schools and the conference office agreed on more. That is still the case.
Guess who voted for that caveat? Texas A&M, which left soon thereafter.
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After.petitioning the NCAA regarding unfair recruiting advantage Texas was trying to gain (NCAA agreed), our work was finished.
The Big 12 conference had already stopped the high-school games being televised, first by moratorium and later by outright vote.
Texas knew it was not going to happen, so Texas voted to ban high-school games on institutional networks.
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The Longhorn Network will not show high school game highlights under an agreement approved by leaders of the Big 12, including Texas.
LINK
It was new territory that didn't have concrete conference or NCAA rules explicitly banning such.
Once that point was sorted out, Texas complied.
You need to get your shite straight.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 8:32 pm to texashorn
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You need to get your shite straight.
Or not. Its not like whose narrative is right changes anything. Especially on a SEC forum.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 8:38 pm to cardboardboxer
You ought to tell your Chancellor that. He keeps saying how A&M has moved on to "new friends" while shooting off about Texas. The man is obsessed with Texas.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:00 pm to texashorn
Yea, four teams left the conference pointing at inequities centered in Austin but it had nothing to do with Texas...
What kind of fricked up narcissistic clown show dream world does one have to live in to be in this much denial about what happened to the Big 12-2-1+1-1+1?
What kind of fricked up narcissistic clown show dream world does one have to live in to be in this much denial about what happened to the Big 12-2-1+1-1+1?
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:02 pm to kilo
So you are saying that Texas A&M and Nebraska DID NOT vote to allow individual networks and unequal revenue distribution? If so, you're a liar.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:11 pm to texashorn
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So you are saying that Texas A&M and Nebraska DID NOT vote to allow individual networks and unequal revenue distribution?
Hilarious straw man.
Wouldnt expect anything less.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:17 pm to kilo
Kilo nailed it. Bottom line, Texas is a greedy, shitty conference partner, and they now have the 2nd rate conference they created with their shenanigans. Own it and deal with it.
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:19 pm to kilo
Texas sure has some magical powers, if they forced A&M and Nebraska to vote for two issues that those latter schools later found issue with. Is it mind control, or what? How did they do it...
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:20 pm to texashorn
e fricking defend your precious longhorns
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:22 pm to WestCoastAg
I would say you are drunk when you posted that. On further thought, with the quality of your posts, you must always be drunk.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 9:23 pm to WestCoastAg
The karma is wonderful. Texas has been a shite show in a shite show conference of their creation.
They are 4th out of 4 power 5 teams in texas and the Long horn network is a disaster.
They are 4th out of 4 power 5 teams in texas and the Long horn network is a disaster.
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 9:24 pm
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