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re: Why did Texas and Oklahoma follow A&M and Mizzou to the SEC?

Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by Old1937
Member since Jun 2024
1172 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:09 pm to
Unlike Missouri and the Aggies, who begged for admittance, OU and Texas were asked to join because if they had gone to B10, the SEC would quickly fade away.
Posted by QBUMizzou
North of the Mason Dixon line
Member since Nov 2013
399 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:20 pm to
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Mizzou wasn't even going to be asked. West Virginia was going to be asked. Then some of their redneck fans nearly killed a LSU fan when the Tigers visited. The SEC said screw WV, let's ask those pussies in Missouri. True story.


Sounds plausible.

Love the criteria.
Posted by QBUMizzou
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Member since Nov 2013
399 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:21 pm to
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Unlike Missouri and the Aggies, who begged for admittance, OU and Texas were asked to join because if they had gone to B10, the SEC would quickly fade away.


So you’re saying the SEC was in grave danger before you brother lovers joined?
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
5159 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:21 pm to
To stop us from winning an SEC championship.
Posted by Old1937
Member since Jun 2024
1172 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:25 pm to
Not at all, but Texas is the biggest commercial brand in college athletics and the SEC knew it.
Posted by QBUMizzou
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Member since Nov 2013
399 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:29 pm to
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Most OU boosters and fans wanted to go to the SEC in 2010 when they were invited.


Things I’ve learned today,

1. Texas and OU operate like the Holy Trinity but they also say they aren’t coequal, coeternal, and coexistent.

2. The SEC was their plan all along.

3. They never destabilized the Big 12. It was those other people, over there.

4. The SEC would have folded if the brother-lovers hadn’t joined.

I mean, this is some wild stuff.

Meth is a debilitating drug.

Posted by Ridgewalker
Member since Aug 2012
4110 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:34 pm to
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Why did Texas and OU come to the SEC? What conditions existed?

Push factors: Big 12 was a shell of its former self after the loss of Mizzou, A&M, Nubs, and Colorado. The teams added were poor substitutes. Media weren’t as interested, and revenues were a joke. The puppet commish was an idiot. Longhorn Network was a failure.

Pull factors: Mizzou and A&M had enhanced revenues and profile. All other major programs were in settled and stable conferences. Your “upgrades” proved meaningless and hollow. You wanted money so you finally agreed to equal revenue sharing-just like your former conference wanted.

You are in the SEC because you f-d everything up royally, and needed to follow A&M and Mizzou’s much wiser path.


This! Texas is a conference killer.
Posted by Whentheleveebreaks
Member since Aug 2020
2681 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:40 pm to
To answer the OP.

It’s simple. Texas always reacts to A&M. There are many examples. I’ll save those for another thread.

For this one, they basically just said f it after the 2020 season when A&M finished 4th and appeared to have their shite together. That’s it.

Texas never wanted the SEC. They are not a fit at all. They will most likely leave. But after several years of doing nothing in football and watching the real rival have success. They said f it and contacted the SEC.

ESPN wanted this as well so they could kill the Longhorn network failure.

OU tagged along bc they needed money.

Anything else stated for this is BS and Texas trying to paint a narrative to make them look good as they always do.
Posted by QBUMizzou
North of the Mason Dixon line
Member since Nov 2013
399 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:44 pm to
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To answer the OP. It’s simple. Texas always reacts to A&M. There are many examples. I’ll save those for another thread. For this one, they basically just said f it after the 2020 season when A&M finished 4th and appeared to have their shite together. That’s it. Texas never wanted the SEC. They are not a fit at all. They will most likely leave. But after several years of doing nothing in football and watching the real rival have success. They said f it and contacted the SEC. ESPN wanted this as well so they could kill the Longhorn network failure. OU tagged along bc they needed money. Anything else stated for this is BS and Texas trying to paint a narrative to make them look good as they always do.


Good stuff!

Envy is a deadly sin.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Whentheleveebreaks
Member since Aug 2020
2681 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:47 pm to
Especially when it makes you do something you really don’t want to do.
Posted by RedDirt
Tampa
Member since Jan 2017
762 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:49 pm to
Because the college football landscape changed. There was no point in willingly going to a conference that might give you an extra loss in the season when you could get to the championship game by getting a Big 12 championship every season.

When they knew the playoff was expanding, smart people know that strategy wasn’t viable anymore.

It’s not more complicated than that.
Posted by 49 to nada
In aggy and gooner heads, rent free
Member since Sep 2023
5218 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:52 pm to
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Most OU boosters and fans wanted to go to the SEC in 2010 when they were invited. But at the time Boren was the president and he wouldn't go without Oklahoma State. When the new President took over, he made it a priority. Texas really had nothing to do with it.
Most people don't seem to realize we've been playing every year for over a century, and the majority of that time was in separate conferences.

It truly doesn't matter if we're in the same conference, both schools alums and fanbases would demand the RRS be played no matter what.
Posted by Nasty_Canasta
Your Mom’s house
Member since Dec 2024
3625 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:53 pm to
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There was no point in willingly going to a conference that might give you an extra loss in the season when you could get to the championship game by getting a Big 12 championship every season.


Now the SEC will be going to 9 game schedule. So an extra loss is inevitable for half the league
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
22002 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:02 pm to
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So you’re saying the SEC was in grave danger before you brother lovers joined?

There's the Whorn Hubris the Aggie and Mizzou fans know all too well.

"Here we are you lucky bastards! And now that we're here, we're running shite..."

Posted by Audustxx
Member since Jul 2022
2164 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:12 pm to
Why did mizzOU have a losing record in b12 football.
Why did mizzOU only win six conference titles (all sports) in b12 5 years twenty varsity sports.
Posted by Audustxx
Member since Jul 2022
2164 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:15 pm to
A&M has actually won sports stuff
Posted by QBUMizzou
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Member since Nov 2013
399 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:18 pm to
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Why did mizzOU have a losing record in b12 football. Why did mizzOU only win six conference titles (all sports) in b12 5 years twenty varsity sports.


Oh, look, here’s that Kansas fan posing as an OU fan again.
Posted by Sooner a Reb
Maryland
Member since Jan 2017
2023 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:30 pm to
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2. The SEC was their plan all along.
Hey, I'm just giving facts, it is pretty easy to look up, Boren is on record about not joining due to Okie Lite, but hey, whatever makes you feel better.
Posted by tBrand
Member since Oct 2022
2601 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:45 pm to
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Especially when it makes you do something you really don’t want to do.

Who says Texas didn't want to be in the SEC? Seems like we did, according to former SEC commissioner Harvey Schiller.
quote:

"The one that made the most sense was Texas," Schiller said. "I spent some time with DeLoss Dodds (the Texas athletic director) and he really wanted to join the conference."

Done deal. Everything agreed to but the name on the dotted line. Then, it all came apart.

"The state legislature (in Texas) somehow got wind of it through Texas A&M and said we had to bring in both schools or we couldn't take Texas," Schiller said.

The SEC didn't want A&M. Ultimately, the two Texas schools would leave the Southwest Conference and join the Big 12.


https://www.al.com/press-register-sports/2010/04/finebaum_how_texas_nearly_join.html

A&M fans came and told you all Texas never wanted to be here and you swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 6:47 pm
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
71826 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 7:14 pm to
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The Big 12 is so prosperous that you have posted on an SEC message board almost 72,000 times... Commenting here is almost like your part of the fun as well!!


Notice how missouri fans never address a subject when they end up being wrong?
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