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re: Why did 2021 Bama struggle to win in the regular season ?

Posted on 5/7/22 at 7:07 pm to
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/7/22 at 7:07 pm to
Because teams that brought a shite ton of pressure rattled young and held them in check. The best game they had all year was not coincidentally the game that the defense decided to play a contain/zone bend but don't break style of Defense which is the exact polar opposite of what film showed to be successful. That same team played them again and played attacking blitzing defense and only allowed 1 touchdown, which was the result of a gift turnover.

Logically and rationally speaking, the seccg was clearly an abberation and the exception rather than the rule.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:02 pm to
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Logically and rationally speaking, the seccg was clearly an abberation and the exception rather than the rule.


In order to look at it logically and rationally then you'd have to take into account the fact that the team that Georgia got embarrassed by in the SECCG was missing several starters, and some of its best players in the NC, which would of course make sense out of this "abberation" that you speak of.
This post was edited on 5/7/22 at 9:03 pm
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 11:20 pm to
Honestly, 2021 Alabama was Saban’s worst team since 2010.

Posted by Colonel Ingus
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
5385 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 5:35 am to
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Why did 2021 Bama struggle to win in the regular season ?

Let me tell you about a place that’s warm. A place where the beer flows like wine, where beautiful women instinctively flock like the salmon of Capistrano. I’m talking about a little place called the SEC West.

Georgia wouldn’t know anything about that.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86470 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 6:32 am to
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In order to look at it logically and rationally then you'd have to take into account the fact that the team that Georgia got embarrassed by in the SECCG was missing several starters, and some of its best players in the NC, which would of course make sense out of this "abberation" that you speak of.


so you completely ignored the point of my post, got it. Let's try again.

-In the handful of regualar season games that bama looked pedestrian, against far inferior opponents (sevearl of which UGA shellacked), it was because those teams brought aggressive, attacking pressure.
-Btw, both metchie and williams played in every single regular season game, including the ones referenced
-In the SECCG, UGA played the exact oppost style of defense. They didn't rush the QB and instead opted to contain young in the pocket to prevent him from scrambling. They didn't play near as much man as they had all year. As for why this? I have no idea. My only speculation is that we saw on film what everyone else would clearly see and figured there was NO WAY bama would simply keep the status quo, so we tried to adjust to what we think they MIGHT do. BAsically tried to stay 2 or 3 steps ahead and completely outsmarted ourselves.
-And once again, to reiterate, both metchie adn williams together played in all 12 regular season games
-When the teams played again in january, UGA said "ok forget what we tried last time it clearly didn't work. Let's just do what everyone else did [and we've done all year]" and lo and nbehold it worked as bama's offense was crap all night


So to sum up:

-Teams defended bama one way for 12 games with great success. It's the same way UGA defended people for 12 games
-In game 13, UGA did the opposite of this and was torched
-In teh rematch, UGA went back to what has worked all year, both for us and against bama. This is in addition to bama missing 1/2 of it's playmakers. The results were a clear uga advantage


All of the above is absolute stone cold balck and white fact. It's irrefutable, except the part I clearly said was my own speculation. You can say "well if we had both those guys we would've won!!!!" while any uga person could clearly say "well if we played defense in december with the same gameplan we had in january you don't even make the playoffs and are sitting home watching us cruise to 2 easy palyoff wins".

Guess we'll never know though, and for once it's the uga fans that can sit back and enjoy the excuse making of others.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 7:50 am to
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A rebuilding year, look like crap but win the SEC and play for a natty……must be nice…
.... and this is why Tide fans laugh at the idiots who claim that they've seen their better days.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:44 am to
Bama wasn't that great last year. One of Saban's worst teams.

How they almost won a Natty is kinda unbelievable.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65082 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:04 am to
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Because teams that brought a shite ton of pressure rattled young and held them in check.


Held them in check? Maybe. Rattled Young? Hell no. I think Auburn sacked Bryce Young upwards of eight times in that game. He kept getting back up and playing the next play. On that final drive he was as clutch as any QB could ever be. Same thing in overtime.

Georgia brought pressure in both games but the OL handled it better in the first game compared to the second. Even in the second game, when Young had a guy right in his face, he put up some beautiful balls. One of Agiye Hall's big drops came on one of those plays. Young threw a brilliant pass with a guy bearing down on him and Hall dropped it. It would have been 1st & Goal inside the 10.
Posted by MizzouTrue
Member since Jun 2016
3841 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:21 am to
“Struggle”

Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18201 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:45 am to
I think it has been covered well

1. Lots of youth
2. Poor OL play (I doubt talent was as much an issue as coaching)
3. A sense of entitlement among a few and lack of overall team leadership

It was a tough season given the # of close games while having talent overmatch but honestly one of the more enjoyable in a while. It is nerve-racking watching so many games undecided until late, but it is admittedly also much more exciting.

Bama outperformed my expectations for the year, while underperforming in a handful of games that still yielded a W. Congrats again to UGA, hell of a season and clutch NC game.
Posted by hookem2522
Member since Jan 2022
1047 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 10:03 am to
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Let me tell you about a place that’s warm. A place where the beer flows like wine, where beautiful women instinctively flock like the salmon of Capistrano. I’m talking about a little place called the SEC West.


Tell us what the SEC basement looks like?

poor aggies
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24501 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 10:10 am to
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Logically and rationally speaking, the seccg was clearly an abberation and the exception rather than the rule.


Except that before Jameson’s injury, Georgia really wasn’t stopping Bama in round 2 either. They were a slight miss throw away from giving up ten points in the first 17 minutes of the game
Posted by icheerforgeorgia
Member since Nov 2011
1808 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 10:11 am to
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How they almost won a Natty is kinda unbelievable.


Are you referring to the 33-18 beatdown?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32865 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 11:16 am to
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Except that before Jameson’s injury, Georgia really wasn’t stopping Bama in round 2 either. They were a slight miss throw away from giving up ten points in the first 17 minutes of the game


Are you saying if young didn’t make a really bad throw to tear his wrs acl, his wr scores for sure on that play?
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 11:22 am to
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Are you saying if young didn’t make a really bad throw to tear his wrs acl, his wr scores for sure on that play?


No injuries happen and it’s foolish to act otherwise. I’m saying that we have 5 quarters of evidence that Georgia couldn’t contain Williams in any way shape or form
Posted by schmoo
marietta ga
Member since Jul 2017
1392 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 1:16 pm to
we were not a good team early on but got better as the season went on. Because of Oline issues we became dependent on the pass and when injuries hit we couldn't compete. We will hopefully be better this year.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65082 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 1:33 pm to
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I’m saying that we have 5 quarters of evidence that Georgia couldn’t contain Williams in any way shape or form


And they really weren't containing Metchie either before he went down in the second quarter of round one. Minus that deep ball to Williams in the third quarter, Georgia stoned us for much of the second half when Metchie went out with his ACL tear. I knew we'd have a more difficult time moving the football in round two without him. Once Williams went down it became downright impossible.
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
4626 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 1:44 pm to
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When the teams played again in january, UGA said "ok forget what we tried last time it clearly didn't work. Let's just do what everyone else did [and we've done all year]" and lo and nbehold it worked as bama's offense was crap all night


This is gaslighting of the highest order. Alabama bogged down in the red zone settling for FGs precisely because they were missing their number 2 WR. When Williamson went out as well, Alabama still moved the ball. A blocked FG was the direct result of a young freshman WR dropping a ball that hit him in the hands inside the 10. It sucks that Alabama want full strength, and UGA gets the win. Why do you have to BS yourself and everyone else about how it played out?
Posted by icheerforgeorgia
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by Golfer1
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2021
4658 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 2:04 pm to
If love for Arkansas rebuilding year to be playing for a NC and winning the SEC and so would every other team in the country

Bama will easily win the NC this year
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 2:05 pm
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