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Why are some fan bases scared of the NCAA losing power?

Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:46 am
Posted by 404 Error
Member since Feb 2024
88 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:46 am
Are they scared of the collectives of schools with larger checkbooks?

The NCAA will not exist in college football in a short few years. Why can some not accept this fact?
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4184 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:58 am to
I personally could care less if the NCAA exists or not.

The part of the NCAA lawsuit that I don't like isn't about the NCAA losing power. I simply believe that enforcing a prohibition on paying recruits to come to a school would be good for college football. I think it's a good rule that should be enforced strongly. I'm disappointed that pay for play is going to be how it works in college football going forward.

If whatever organization runs college football could prevent any NIL contracts from having any conditions that effectively require a player to attend a particular college, I think it would fix 95% of the problems that exist with NIL.

I'm a bit disappointed that as soon as the NCAA tried to enforce that rule, the rule effectively got thrown away.

It's not the end of the world, but I think it's bad for the sport.
Posted by 404 Error
Member since Feb 2024
88 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:59 am to
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The part of the NCAA lawsuit that I don't like isn't about the NCAA losing power. I simply believe that enforcing a prohibition on paying recruits to come to a school would be good for college football. I think it's a good rule that should be enforced strongly. I'm disappointed that pay for play is going to be how it works in college football going forward.

You sure didn't mind it when UGA was doing it under the table.
Posted by Volatile
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
5471 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:59 am to
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I simply believe that enforcing a prohibition on paying recruits to come to a school would be good for college football. I think it's a good rule that should be enforced strongly. I'm disappointed that pay for play is going to be how it works in college football going forward.


Sounds like communist talk to me.
Posted by Guess
Down The Road
Member since Jun 2009
3768 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:15 am to
Schools that stayed back in the NIL situation at the absolute beginning are learning more. No NIL deal will ever require going to a certain school, but they can require a certain amount of selective appearances that will make it hard to be at another school. They can even require living in an area. What good does it do MBOBR if Angel is driving her big body Benz somewhere outside of BR?
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
1975 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:16 am to
No one cares if NCAA bites dust. CFB fans should care about what replaces it. I personally hope that P5 schools separate and only play each other while the smaller programs take on more realistic budgets, not subsidized by being punching dummies for bigger programs and can actually compete for their own championship.

Share revenue through video games and TV where the Conferences employ the players and can legally enforce transfer and NIL rules. No more collectives. With exceptions(physical job, podcasts, commercials, social media, etc) players cannot receive payments from outside sources.
Posted by 404 Error
Member since Feb 2024
88 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:24 am to
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No one cares if NCAA bites dust. CFB fans should care about what replaces it.
"College football" is gone.

Professional teams owned and managed by universities have replaced college football.

You can thank the Nick Sabans and Kirby Smarts for the change. Everyone had to be able to buy teams to complete with their under the table purchases. This is the result.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15873 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:32 am to
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The part of the NCAA lawsuit that I don't like isn't about the NCAA losing power. I simply believe that enforcing a prohibition on paying recruits to come to a school would be good for college football.


If UGA couldn’t pay players it wouldn’t have much of their roster. Walker was paid to attend UGA (1980 title and run) and Kirby is coaching a roster of paid players since he got to UGA. You don’t believe those recruiting classes are anything but bought do you? Pruitt half assed buying recruits that UGA paid full price for. Mimms was just one of dozens of bought and paid for recruits from those years.

fricking hypocrite.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29163 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:32 am to
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whatever organization runs college football could prevent any NIL contracts from having any conditions that effectively require a player to attend a particular college, I think it would fix 95% of the problems that exist with NIL.


It would fix it because boosters would no longer pay.
The only reason they are getting paid is to play football.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22574 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:34 am to
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Sounds like communist talk to me.


Because you're stupid and don't understand capitalism or communism.

The idea people voluntarily grouping together and adhering to certain standards to produce a product is somehow communism where people are forced to do things in order to be productive for the state is outright ignorant.

I hope you didn't pay for whatever education you got.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4184 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:35 am to
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Schools that stayed back in the NIL situation at the absolute beginning are learning more. No NIL deal will ever require going to a certain school, but they can require a certain amount of selective appearances that will make it hard to be at another school. They can even require living in an area. What good does it do MBOBR if Angel is driving her big body Benz somewhere outside of BR?


The actual bylaw for the NCAA says that NIL deals cannot contain any "inducements" to attend a particular school.

No NIL deals say "you have to go to X school". But having appearance requirements that require you to live in the town a school is in can be viewed as an "inducement" to attend that school. And the NCAA was using that to go after Tennessee.

Doesn't matter now as the courts are removing that (which is really the only NIL rule in the NCAA bylaws). But it's wrong to think that it had to be spelled out in the NIL contract to be a violation of that now meaningless rule.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
7973 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:41 am to
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Why are some fan bases scared of the NCAA losing power?


Because I love college football. I don’t care that much about the NFL.

It appears that college football is dying and what we will be left with is minor league NFL football.

The NCAA is flawed. But they are the glue that holds it all together. I am afraid the death of the NCAA would also mean the death of college football.

That is why I am scared. Maybe it is a good thing though. I won’t waste as much of my life on Saturday afternoons watching people chase a guy with a ball when that happens.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4184 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:42 am to
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If UGA couldn’t pay players it wouldn’t have much of their roster. Walker was paid to attend UGA (1980 title and run) and Kirby is coaching a roster of paid players since he got to UGA. You don’t believe those recruiting classes are anything but bought do you? Pruitt half assed buying recruits that UGA paid full price for. Mimms was just one of dozens of bought and paid for recruits from those years.

fricking hypocrite.


There's a reason UGA wasn't being investigated for buying players and Tennessee was.

It's not because of some conspiracy theory about UGA owning the NCAA. The simple truth is UGA didn't buy players and Tennessee did.

UGA did buy Hershcel Walker a camaro though. But that was 40+ years ago. UGA has never been even rumored as one of the schools that paid players. Most of our issues have been players getting in trouble for trying to get money like players selling autographs, game jerseys or championship rings.

That's what happens when schools DON'T pay their players and they try to get money in other ways.

I'm constantly amused by the accusations of buying players when even rumors of such behavior are difficult to find, let alone actual evidence of anything.

I guess if it makes you feel better to think UGA's success comes from cheating you're welcome to do so. It's just amusing that the actual evidence of cheating points to your program.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22574 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:42 am to
Nobody gives a shite about the NCAA, people don't want pay to play and they especially don't want unrestricted free agency.

Not to mention everything that is going on only benefits the top 1% of players, and screws over the rest.

Even if the schools leave the NCAA, they are just going to remake it.
Posted by TXbooster
Member since Feb 2024
26 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 11:20 am to
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Are they scared of the collectives of schools with larger checkbooks?


Yes
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
1975 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 11:21 am to
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You can thank the Nick Sabans and Kirby Smarts for the change


What a dumbass opinion
Posted by 404 Error
Member since Feb 2024
88 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 11:24 am to
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You can thank the Nick Sabans and Kirby Smarts for the change
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What a dumbass opinion
It's not an opinion. It's a fact.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30591 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 11:33 am to
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I personally could care less if the NCAA exists or not.
Please tell us how much less could you care?
Posted by Volatile
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
5471 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 11:38 am to
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Because you're stupid and don't understand capitalism or communism. The idea people voluntarily grouping together and adhering to certain standards to produce a product is somehow communism where people are forced to do things in order to be productive for the state is outright ignorant. I hope you didn't pay for whatever education you got.



Oh my God you thought I was being 100% serious.

Hahahahhahahahah
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18150 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 11:40 am to
Open transfers is the problem. The players will eventually be employees with rights.
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