re: Who’s coach of the year?

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You guys did really well one game of the season, the rest has been very "meh" while Florida continues to dominate their season.

That's why the CFP takes the entire year into account and not just one game.

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So you agree Texas A&M has a more impressive body of work, since the CFP rankings have Texas A&M ahead of Florida

Is recruiting not an important job of a head coach?

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Is recruiting not an important job of a head coach?

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Evaluating, recruiting and developing players with the right attitude, work ethic, and potential is the MAIN part of college coaching. It is what makes it a year round job and turns a lot of technical football coaches away from CFB and toward the NFL.

There are lots of great Xs and Os coaches that simply can't manage and project rosters to retain sufficient talent and depth for sustained success.

When football acumen and innovation are equal to near equal, it is recruiting that separates the good from elite in college. Saban looks for recruiters first and football IQ second in evaluations of staff.

So, yes, it should absolutely count toward CoY voting. It is a travesty that Saban's success has prevented him from winning more deserved CoY trophies. It has become a "most improved" trophy with no account or appreciation for the difficulty in sustaining success at a high level.

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1. A first-year coach of a team with a shitty record.
2. A shitty team that fired their coach.
3. Another shitty team that fired their coach...with a girl kicker.
4. A shitty Kentucky team.
5. The shittiest LSU team of this century.

His five wins are over teams that are a combined 12-33. I'd like for just one person to point out the big fricking accomplishment in that record.

I don't care if he beats Georgia 77-7. The winner of the SECCG deserves it.

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It’s almost like you’ve never seen a mirror. Point out what’s impressive about a team thought to be one of, if not the best prior to the season beating 2 teams. If mu beating Georgia doesn’t matter, Alabama winning would be even less impressive. 7 of your 9 wins...
1. The team you just tried to prove is trash
2. “ The shittiest LSU team of this century”
3. “ A first-year coach of a team with a shitty record ”
4. “A first-year coach of a team with a shitty record”
5. “ A shitty Kentucky team”
6. shitty team that will probably fire their coach
7. Shitty in state team with wins over teams that are 16-27

I mean what’s more impressive? A coach winning 10 games against 8 “shitty” teams (assuming a victory over ark) when his team is expected to play for a national title ? Or a coach with a shot at 6-7 wins and no worse than 3rd in his division when everyone predicted them to win 2-3 and finish no better that 6-7th?

I get your point, but what Alabama does is hardly impressive anymore or an example of a coach overachieving. If your giving the award for exceeding expectations than you pick a coach who did much better than expected. Otherwise it’s the coach of the best team award.

Bo Pelini should get it. He's been responsible for the success of many opposing head coaches this year.

Jimbo and it's not even close.

Saban

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Either Saban or Mullen should get it. No one else deserves it.




i dont think you understand the award.

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I understand it's not supposed to be a participation trophy.

Ok, you could make an argument for Jimbo if Mullen knocks off Alabama, or if Alabama beats Florida and aTm slips in the playoffs. If Saban runs the table, no one will have done a better coaching job than him.

And yeah, that's the guy whose supposed to win it...not the coach of a historically mediocre to decent team with only 5 wins, all over shitty teams.

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bullshite

It's way past time for these COTY awards to stop being fricking participation awards.

His 5 wins have been against the following:


So mad!

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See, when you can't refute the merits of my points and this is all you have, this is how I know that even you know I'm right.

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It’s almost like you’ve never seen a mirror. Point out what’s impressive about a team thought to be one of, if not the best prior to the season beating 2 teams. If mu beating Georgia doesn’t matter, Alabama winning would be even less impressive. 7 of your 9 wins...
1. The team you just tried to prove is trash
2. “ The shittiest LSU team of this century”
3. “ A first-year coach of a team with a shitty record ”
4. “A first-year coach of a team with a shitty record”
5. “ A shitty Kentucky team”
6. shitty team that will probably fire their coach
7. Shitty in state team with wins over teams that are 16-27

I mean what’s more impressive? A coach winning 10 games against 8 “shitty” teams (assuming a victory over ark) when his team is expected to play for a national title ? Or a coach with a shot at 6-7 wins and no worse than 3rd in his division when everyone predicted them to win 2-3 and finish no better that 6-7th?

I get your point, but what Alabama does is hardly impressive anymore or an example of a coach overachieving. If your giving the award for exceeding expectations than you pick a coach who did much better than expected. Otherwise it’s the coach of the best team award.

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Look, I get your affection for your guy, but there's so much ignorance in your post, it's hard to know where to start.

Saban has beaten EVERY team he's played, INCLUDING a team some experts have making the 4th spot of the playoffs. And he beat them by 28 points. Drink doesn't even have one win over a single team with even a .500 record.

On top of that, he got sodomized by Tennessee by 3 TDs.

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I get your point, but what Alabama does is hardly impressive anymore or an example of a coach overachieving.

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Anyone who has been around sports for more than 15 minutes understand that many teams give a "most improved" award at the end of the year...and it's never the MVP. You want to give Drink a separate award for most improved...fine.

Or maybe you think that if your kid somehow raises his average from 60 to 75 in enough classes that now he gets to graduate, he should be valedictorian.

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Otherwise it’s the coach of the best team award.

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I'm not saying that either. If Alabama runs the table, and if Texas A&M slips into the 4th spot, I'm ok with giving it to Jimbo. That would have been a helluva coaching job...especially with Kellen Mond at QB.