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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:13 pm to CarolinaCock
Some teams can run the football on 1st down.
Those stats are not those teams.
Is this really about running or are you just butt hurt over losing by 28pts because sounds like thats what your real problem is. I'm just telling you how spurrier does the offense and we've won 11+ games two years in a row so he must know something that u do not I guess.
Those stats are not those teams.
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Those teams with that many rushing TDs can run the football on 1st down, or 2nd down, or 3rd down.
And that's not South Carolina.
Do you think you are so special that you don't have to do what EVERY successful conference champion does?
LOL Good luck with that. Tell me how the Outback Bowl works out for you in 2013.
Is this really about running or are you just butt hurt over losing by 28pts because sounds like thats what your real problem is. I'm just telling you how spurrier does the offense and we've won 11+ games two years in a row so he must know something that u do not I guess.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:18 pm to CarolinaCock
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Is this really about running or are you just butt hurt over losing by 28pts because sounds like thats what your real problem is. I'm just telling you how spurrier does the offense and we've won 11+ games two years in a row so he must know something that u do not I guess.
lol. i like how i have solid facts and you question my feelings on a game totally unrelated to the topic (or related to the topic if you realize that you actually ran the football against us unlike what you did the remainder of the season).
deflect much?
It's no biggie. Either you improve your running game. Or you never win the SECCG.
UGA wallowed in a piss poor running game for several seasons. Even with a good offense in 2011, we couldn't run the football and lost every major game on our schedule. 2012, we saw significant improvement. And despite issues defensively, we finally stepped up and won some big games.
You should pay attention to me.
I'm smarter than you.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:26 pm to meansonny
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lol. i like how i have solid facts and you question my feelings on a game totally unrelated to the topic (or related to the topic if you realize that you actually ran the football against us unlike what you did the remainder of the season).
deflect much?
It's no biggie. Either you improve your running game. Or you never win the SECCG.
UGA wallowed in a piss poor running game for several seasons. Even with a good offense in 2011, we couldn't run the football and lost every major game on our schedule. 2012, we saw significant improvement. And despite issues defensively, we finally stepped up and won some big games.
You should pay attention to me.
I'm smarter than you.
You obviously are not smarter than me you think your opinions are facts. Good teams do whatever it takes to win. Whether it be on offense, defense, or special teams they do what it takes. You make it sound as if the only reason we beat you was because of those 230 rushing yds. Get off of it. we scored 2tds through the air and a td on special teams now thats firing on all cylinders. You march out some list with rushing yds on it and act as if thats the gold standard. Rushing yds only controls the clock and keeps the opposing offense off the field and that will only get u so far at some point u must be able to throw a forward pass. Clemson had a ton of rushing yds against us they still lost. The bottom line is if u can't do it in all phases u will lose.
GA was running all over ppl until they got to williams brice and couldn't run or pass or do anything on special teams and ended up getting thumped not because they we're trying because they actually ran into a real DEFENSE.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:30 pm to meansonny
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And despite issues defensively, we finally stepped up and won some big games.
You went 1-3 in big games last year, beating UF and losing to USC and Bama.
Unless I'm missing another big game UGA played in
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:36 pm to CarolinaCock
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You obviously are not smarter than me you think your opinions are facts. Good teams do whatever it takes to win. Whether it be on offense, defense, or special teams they do what it takes. You make it sound as if the only reason we beat you was because of those 230 rushing yds. Get off of it. we scored 2tds through the air and a td on special teams now thats firing on all cylinders. You march out some list with rushing yds on it and act as if thats the gold standard. Rushing yds only controls the clock and keeps the opposing offense off the field and that will only get u so far at some point u must be able to throw a forward pass. Clemson had a ton of rushing yds against us they still lost. The bottom line is if u can't do it in all phases u will lose.
GA was running all over ppl until they got to williams brice and couldn't run or pass or do anything on special teams and ended up getting thumped not because they we're trying because they actually ran into a real DEFENSE.
You obviously struggle with comprehension.
The reference to your running game against us wasn't about you versus us.
It's about what you failed to do against LSU and Florida. And what is reflective of your 19 rushing TDs.
And yes... it is a fact that the SEC Champion has been among the best in conference running the football. And no. It's not 25+ rushing TDs. It's 30+. And if there are some struggles defensively, maybe even 40+ (Auburn).
And I'm not talking about rushing yards. You don't get it.
UGA was great at running the football on 1st down in 2011 (since you haven't picked up on it, yet. 1st down is when the defense doesn't know if you are running or throwing). But when we needed tough yards (3rd and short or goalline), we had to go to the air. And that's what separates the SEC Champions from every one else.
Heck... Bama is one of the best rushing football teams in the country. And in the SECCG with the game on the line, they went 3 and out and had to punt to give us the football back with a chance to get the win.
If you have a Johnny Manzeil, you are more likely to get that 1st down to seal the win (same as what Tebow did for Florida and what Cam did for Auburn).
Running the football when it matters is what wins SECCG. And the best stat for measuring that is rushing TDs (if you want to weed out the pansies, just look at conference games only).
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:40 pm to deeprig9
I'd take Clowney.
It would appear that TAMU fans are butt hurt about people not being in love with Manziel though.
It would appear that TAMU fans are butt hurt about people not being in love with Manziel though.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:50 pm to meansonny
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You obviously struggle with comprehension.
The reference to your running game against us wasn't about you versus us.
It's about what you failed to do against LSU and Florida. And what is reflective of your 19 rushing TDs.
And yes... it is a fact that the SEC Champion has been among the best in conference running the football. And no. It's not 25+ rushing TDs. It's 30+. And if there are some struggles defensively, maybe even 40+ (Auburn).
And I'm not talking about rushing yards. You don't get it.
UGA was great at running the football on 1st down in 2011 (since you haven't picked up on it, yet. 1st down is when the defense doesn't know if you are running or throwing). But when we needed tough yards (3rd and short or goalline), we had to go to the air. And that's what separates the SEC Champions from every one else.
Heck... Bama is one of the best rushing football teams in the country. And in the SECCG with the game on the line, they went 3 and out and had to punt to give us the football back with a chance to get the win.
If you have a Johnny Manzeil, you are more likely to get that 1st down to seal the win (same as what Tebow did for Florida and what Cam did for Auburn).
Running the football when it matters is what wins SECCG. And the best stat for measuring that is rushing TDs (if you want to weed out the pansies, just look at conference games only).
Oh now it's about how good you can run on 1st down. Your list had a team that did not have over 30+ rushing td's I'm just telling u.
we made it to the sec championship game and only had 28 rushing td's just saying and I'm pretty sure we didn't have a great rushing avg on 1st down. It's important to move the football on 1st down whether your running or passing doesn't really matter. Like I said u have to be able to do it all.
I've been following you since pg 11 though your basic premise is that we have no chance to make it unless we do the things you have stated I got and if it makes you feel better I agree with u we have no chance because we will not have 40 rushing td's or avg 6yds per rush on offense. So there ya go we have no shot feel better now
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:55 pm to deeprig9
If you exclude the answers motivated only by spite it's like 33-1.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:06 am to CarolinaCock
You're tired. You are getting further and further from comprehension.
1) It's not about running on first down. Some teams have good running stats on 1st down. But that doesn't mean that they can run the football when they need to (ie. UGA 2011 who lost every big game on our schedule. Or Arkansas that year for that matter)
2)Double-check the list. The only teams that didn't have rushing TDs in the 30's were in the 40's.
3) you had 26 rushing TDs and you made it to the conference championship game. And you lost to a team that had 41. Are you getting the picture?
4) If you don't get to 30+ rushing TDs (regardless of the ypc... because ypc on 1st down doesn't mean jack squat), then you won't win the SECCG.
Good night. I hope your head doesn't hurt tomorrow.
It's not working so well right now.
You've got a great coach. But he appears to be abandoning your running game a little too easily.
When your tailbacks touch the ball 13 times against LSU and 15 times against Florida, you might have issues winning the conference. Despite having the best defender in the conference.
1) It's not about running on first down. Some teams have good running stats on 1st down. But that doesn't mean that they can run the football when they need to (ie. UGA 2011 who lost every big game on our schedule. Or Arkansas that year for that matter)
2)Double-check the list. The only teams that didn't have rushing TDs in the 30's were in the 40's.
3) you had 26 rushing TDs and you made it to the conference championship game. And you lost to a team that had 41. Are you getting the picture?
4) If you don't get to 30+ rushing TDs (regardless of the ypc... because ypc on 1st down doesn't mean jack squat), then you won't win the SECCG.
Good night. I hope your head doesn't hurt tomorrow.
It's not working so well right now.
You've got a great coach. But he appears to be abandoning your running game a little too easily.
When your tailbacks touch the ball 13 times against LSU and 15 times against Florida, you might have issues winning the conference. Despite having the best defender in the conference.
This post was edited on 5/23/13 at 12:07 am
Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:12 am to deeprig9
I'll take JFF.
We have had dominant DL'men and JFF has had more of an impact on our games then those guys this past year...
Now if JFF falls flat on his face then obviously the safe pick would be the dominant DL. I can see it both ways.
Still, JFF has done more then win games for a&m this past year.
We have had dominant DL'men and JFF has had more of an impact on our games then those guys this past year...
Now if JFF falls flat on his face then obviously the safe pick would be the dominant DL. I can see it both ways.
Still, JFF has done more then win games for a&m this past year.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 1:27 am to deeprig9
Chalk up another for Clowney.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 1:29 am to VermilionTiger
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Clowney
It's easier to plug in a QB into a system.
I don't care who of the two, but I always had thought that Sumlin's true offense wasn't really in place, but Manziel's ability basically was something no one could predict which opened up the passing lanes and receivers. I don't think A&M is even close to the same team without Manziel.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 4:35 am to Bluefin
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I guess that's why he finished 6th in Heisman votes.
Who finished First?
What is USCe's record without Clowney this year?
What's A&M's record without Johnny?
Posted on 5/23/13 at 5:15 am to deeprig9
Clowney... D wins championships.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 5:57 am to deeprig9
Manziel
Posted on 5/23/13 at 7:22 am to TbirdSpur2010
Clowney
Clowney is the real deal and the one player I still wish Bama would've landed. Manzeil is a great football player too but he's not on Clowney's level. I'm curious to see how Manzeil does next season. Especially now that top SEC teams have plenty of time to game-plan him. Shoot, the good SEC defense figured him out in the games themselves last season, alone having a whole off-season to prepare.
If defensive players could actually win the Heisman these days.
Clowney would be very worthy of the reward.
Clowney is the real deal and the one player I still wish Bama would've landed. Manzeil is a great football player too but he's not on Clowney's level. I'm curious to see how Manzeil does next season. Especially now that top SEC teams have plenty of time to game-plan him. Shoot, the good SEC defense figured him out in the games themselves last season, alone having a whole off-season to prepare.
If defensive players could actually win the Heisman these days.
Clowney would be very worthy of the reward.
This post was edited on 5/23/13 at 7:27 am
Posted on 5/23/13 at 7:29 am to SquirrelyBama
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Especially now that top SEC teams have plenty of time to game-plan him. Shoot, the good SEC defense figured him out in the games themselves last season, alone having a whole off-season to prepare.
You're not going to like this season. Just be glad this is the last year you have to deal with him
Btw, do you think OCs are spending all offseason preparing just for Clowney?
I heard Bama's DL has trimmed down to better defend dual threat QBs, Manziel in particular. Has Clowney changes any dynasties philosophies?
Posted on 5/23/13 at 7:31 am to LaBornNRaised
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Who would you take- Manziel or Clowney? Clowney Leads through Page 8!!!Clowney... D wins championships.
In the pros, i would say that the better qb has won more superbowls than the team with the best defensive player.
In college, i would say that the team with the more effective running game has won moreso than the team with the best defensive player.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 7:32 am to meansonny
Clowney
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