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Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:33 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:34 pm to Gardevoir
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Maybe we should bring up Murray's performances against South Carolina (blowout loss) and Florida (near miss).
LSU played 13 games and you want to point to 2?
Look, you guys were talking about how Mettenberger is a winner and Murray is a loser. (My words, your sentiment) Using your logic, Flordia was a win, so it doesn't count.
All I was pointing out was that LSU was winning because of their defense, NOT because of Mettenberger. While I believe your "D" will be excellent this year, it won't be as dominating as it has been the last 2-3 seasons. If Mettenberger puts up performances like he did last year you can count those games as losses this year....do you seriously disagree?
This post was edited on 7/20/13 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:35 pm to gatorhata9
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Based on? Their defense being shredded by graduation/draft? Losing the best runningback in school history? Losing their best playmaker in Ace Sanders? How are they going to be better when they have very little experience in at linebacker and in the secondary?
Hehe, I'll leave this discussion for another time.
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Um, ok. Did someone else throw the game winning TD pass w/ 7 minutes to go?
Um, ok. Did Aaron Murray force Jordan Reed to fumble as he was running towards the end zone to potentially tie the game? Did Murray force or recover 5 Florida turnovers? Did Murray make a guy or two miss on that touchdown pass you mention? Did Murray not get picked off 3 times? Things went your way on that one drive. Congrats. Don't act like Murray took over the game after sucking throughout most of it.
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Jesus man. "They played good because we didn't".
If you think this is the only game where Alabama's defense looked bad then look at the LSU and Texas A&M games. LSU held the ball for 2/3 of the LSU game, so I won't be overly critical of the defense's play in that game. The A&M and Georgia performances were just awful though.
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We beat them by 2 TD's. that's handily no matter how you slice it.
Okay, we have different interpretations of the word "handily". Ohio State and Wisconsin beat Nebraska handily. Your 14 point victory doesn't change the fact that Nebraska's #1 pass defense and team were overrated. Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:35 pm to DawgsLife
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much of that team that was winning in spite of your quarterback is gone, and your quarterback is still there.
With a year of experience under his belt. I have no idea why every body acts like Mett was a 3rd year starter last year. He didn't start a game for over a year and then 2012 was his first year starting in the fricking SEC. Go check out how similar his numbers were to McCarron's first year
AJ 2634 yards 16TD 5INT
ZM 2609 yards 12TD 7INT
Keep in mind AJ had 2 first round draft picks and an outland trophy winner keeping him upright. Mettenberger had an often injured patchwork O-line that struggled most of the year.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:37 pm to DawgsLife
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Your team wins in spite of your quarterback, period. Trouble is...much of that team that was winning in spite of your quarterback is gone, and your quarterback is still there.
Look. LSU has a great team. Very few teams have done what LSU has done over the past 5 years. You will have a very good team this year, and it will only get better over the next few years. However, Georgia is catching LSU at the right time. (My opinion) I think we win this year.....but I have been known to be wrong before!
I can accept this post. I'm glad that we finally may be coming to an understanding.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:38 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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With a year of experience under his belt. I have no idea why every body acts like Mett was a 3rd year starter last year. He didn't start a game for over a year and then 2012 was his first year starting in the fricking SEC. Go check out how similar his numbers were to McCarron's first year
Oh. Sorry. You are right. Mettenberger is as good as McCarron.
Seriously? Wow. I'm almost ashamed to admit i was born in Red Stick.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:38 pm to Lsupimp
UGA 28-17. I think UGA's offense will be too much for LSU's offense to keep up with. UGA's loaded offense v. LSU's rebuilding defense in Athens is not a good matchup at all for LSU.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:39 pm to DawgsLife
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If Mettenberger puts up performances like he did last year you can count those games as losses this year....do you seriously disagree
The key word here is IF. What if Cam Cameron actually has improved Metts game by a mile and we come out air bombing everybody. What if our freshman defensive players com out and dominate. Like I said y'all know just about as much on your team that we do with ours. That's why I will refrain from making a prediction until I see them both play
Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:40 pm to Gardevoir
I meant no disrespect to LSU. I wish Georgia had done what LSU has done the past five years. But seriously.....no way can I accept that Mettenberger is as good as Murray. Sorry.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:40 pm to Gardevoir
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Hehe, I'll leave this discussion for another time.
Realizing you're wrong but not admitting it. You got a lot of Bammer in you.
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If you think this is the only game where Alabama's defense looked bad then look at the LSU and Texas A&M games. LSU held the ball for 2/3 of the LSU game, so I won't be overly critical of the defense's play in that game. The A&M and Georgia performances were just awful though.
They played well because we sucked. Would it kill you to give another team credit?
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Okay, we have different interpretations of the word "handily". Ohio State and Wisconsin beat Nebraska handily. Your 14 point victory doesn't change the fact that Nebraska's #1 pass defense and team were overrated.
Ok, so why was it overrated? Because we torched them? I'm sure you're a fricking expert on Nebraska football.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:42 pm to DawgsLife
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LSU played 13 games and you want to point to 2?
Look, you guys were talking about how Mettenberger is a winner and Murray is a loser. (My words, your sentiment) Using your logic, Flordia was a win, so it doesn't count.
All I was pointing out was that LSU was winning because of their defense, NOT because of Mettenberger. While I believe your "D" will be excellent this year, it won't be as dominating as it has been the last 2-3 seasons. If Mettenberger puts up performances like he did last year you can count those games as losses this year....do you seriously disagree?
Huh? I'm not an LSU fan; I'm just on their side of the argument. I think we can both agree that Georgia and LSU's defense may both improve due to "addition by subtraction". Sam Montgomery admitted to taking plays and games off. A few other LSU players took a step back last year too. Georgia's defense took a significant step back too. I wouldn't be surprised if both teams defenses were better than last season's. The question is how long will it take?
Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:42 pm to DawgsLife
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Oh. Sorry. You are right. Mettenberger is as good as McCarron.
Right because thats exactly what I said. Even though what I actually stated was their numbers were comparable while Mettenberger had shite for an o-line. But I suppose you're having fun being intentionally obtuse.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:44 pm to LSUNV
What if...what if....what if.
I think your defense WILL come out and be outstanding.
And, what many people forget is Mettenberger was a very highly rated prospect coming out of High School, so the talent is at least perceived to be there. But, I really doubt Cameron will "improve Mettenberger by a mile." I think what you will see is LSU using those big running backs to batter their way down the field with a few throws to keep defenses honest.
Out of curiosity...whatever happened to the Rivers kid you guys had/have? I thought he was going to be a good one, but he never got off the bench. Is Mettenberger that much better than him?
I think your defense WILL come out and be outstanding.
And, what many people forget is Mettenberger was a very highly rated prospect coming out of High School, so the talent is at least perceived to be there. But, I really doubt Cameron will "improve Mettenberger by a mile." I think what you will see is LSU using those big running backs to batter their way down the field with a few throws to keep defenses honest.
Out of curiosity...whatever happened to the Rivers kid you guys had/have? I thought he was going to be a good one, but he never got off the bench. Is Mettenberger that much better than him?
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:44 pm to DawgsLife
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I meant no disrespect to LSU. I wish Georgia had done what LSU has done the past five years. But seriously.....no way can I accept that Mettenberger is as good as Murray. Sorry.
I'm not the one claiming that Mettenberger is better. I just don't think LSU should be written off until a few questions are answered.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:46 pm to DawgsLife
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.whatever happened to the Rivers kid you guys had/have?
He's our backup. Was considered a project from the start. Probably never starts a game at LSU barring injury
Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:46 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Are you saying you were not trying to insinuate that Mettenberger MIGHT be as good as McCarron because they had similar number their first year in the SEC? If that was not your point...what exactly WAS your point? 
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:49 pm to Gardevoir
Anybody who writes off LSU just doesn't follow College football. You would have to be a fool to downplay what they have done, what they are capable of doing, and what they will probably do in the future. They are just too talented.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:50 pm to Gardevoir
Whether or not Cam Cameron has the offense better or not doesn't change the fact that the game is in Athens, we will have been battle tested, it's LSU's first true road game of the year, and we essentially have two weeks off before the game.
Those are just the cold hard facts and, at least IMO, they will have a significant bearing on the outcome.
Those are just the cold hard facts and, at least IMO, they will have a significant bearing on the outcome.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:51 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Wow. My brother is a HUGE LSU fan, and he kept fussing about Mettenberger and how he thought Rivers should be in there. Problem with LSU and Alabama is you guys have SO much talent that some good, talented kids just never make it on the field.
All joking aside...what do you see your record being this year? You have a horrible schedule.
All joking aside...what do you see your record being this year? You have a horrible schedule.
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