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re: Who will have the best defense this year?
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:01 pm to NCDawg52
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:01 pm to NCDawg52
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UGA will be close, but ultimately, putrid recruiting on the DL will prevent us from having the chops to be the tops.
I don't get you. We got one 5* and two 4* Dlinemen last year, and already have four 4* DLinemen committed this year.
We aren't populating with 5*'s, but putrid?
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:02 pm to DawgsLife
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Okay. Outside of Devin White, none of LSU's LB's looked special. How are you going to replace him? I mean, the production there has to drop, right?
LSU will field two very good inside linebackers in Jacobs and Divinity.
Special? IDK how you're defining that term. Roquan Smith was special, but Georgia didn't field a "special" linebacker last year, and they won't this year, either (unless y'all have a surprise up your sleeves).
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:02 pm to 167back
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FYI - in SEC games only - state's "D" was not #1 in scoring or total "D".
They were #1 by a larger margin in Yards Per Play in SEC games only
1. Mississippi State (4.23 YPP)
2. Alabama (4.50 YPP)
3. LSU (5.12 YPP)
4. Kentucky (5.15 YPP)
5. Georgia (5.16 YPP)
6. Missouri (5.56 YPP)
7. South Carolina (5.66 YPP)
8. Florida (5.69 YPP)
9. Auburn (5.77 YPP)
10. Texas A&M (5.98 YPP)
11. Tennessee (6.01 YPP)
12. Vanderbilt (6.55 YPP)
13. Arkansas (6.63 YPP)
14. Ole Miss (6.79 YPP)
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:02 pm to LSUbase13
LSU. 3 layers of experience and depth for the first time since 2012.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:03 pm to DawgsLife
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My point is you really aren't familiar with our players
And you obviously aren't familiar with LSU's.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:04 pm to Lsupimp
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LSU. 3 layers of experience and depth for the first time since 2012.
LSU has a fantastic back 7 and Chaisson will be very good - but their interior lineman better be a whole lot better.
They were below average against the run and non-existent in pass rush.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:06 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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LSU has a fantastic back 7 and Chaisson will be very good - but their interior lineman better be a whole lot better.
They were below average against the run and non-existent in pass rush.
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:07 pm to DawgsLife
Jacob Phillips was the #11 tackler in the SEC last year, btw. He had more tackles than anyone on Georgia's team, just FYI.
Is he Devin White? No, but few players are that good.
Is he Devin White? No, but few players are that good.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:08 pm to TxTiger82
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LSU will field two very good inside linebackers in Jacobs and Divinity.
Okay. But neither is on White's level. Production will drop there just like it did for Georgia last year. We thought the collective unit could take up the slack, but it couldn't. When you lose top flight talent like Roquan and Devin White, it just hurts.
quote:Thank you for making my point. It hurts to lose people like Roquan and Devin White.
Roquan Smith was special, but Georgia didn't field a "special" linebacker last year, and they won't this year, either (unless y'all have a surprise up your sleeves).
I am not putting down LSU's defense at all. I am merely pointing out that LSU lost some production, too....just like Georgia. but both programs have been recruiting extremely well, so the damage won't be as severe as it would be for other teams.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:10 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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LSU has a fantastic back 7 and Chaisson will be very good - but their interior lineman better be a whole lot better.
Shelvin and Ika at the nose changes this. Fehoko was forced into that position last year and it showed.
LSU will have a solid 2 man rotation at the nose and 3 man rotation on the ends. After that it gets a little iffy.
ETA: This is all contingent on Shelvin staying in shape, which was a problem last year.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:10 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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LSU has a fantastic back 7 and Chaisson will be very good - but their interior lineman better be a whole lot better.
The entire group returns, so they'll likely improve. Besides, Chaisson (or a player like him) is the lynchpin to Aranda's system. Without him, LSU had to find ways to generate pass rush with other players, finally settling on a third safety (Jacoby Stevens) who played in the box most of the time.
LSU will play a 3-3-5 again this year, rushing both Chaisson and Stevens. Pass rush SHOULD be improved, barring injury.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:10 pm to TxTiger82
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My point is you really aren't familiar with our players
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And you obviously aren't familiar with LSU's.
Gee....did you stop reading my post before seeing that I wrote that exact thing?
Some of you guys are the most selective readers I have ever seen....hope you enjoyed the gotcha moment that you didn't really get.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:11 pm to TxTiger82
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Is he Devin White? No, but few players are that good.
Absolutely. And few players were Roquan Smith. Are you not reading my entire posts at all? Should I go back and repost the parts you are so conveniently leaving out?
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:11 pm to DawgsLife
six of those dudes haven't played a down yet for uga.
Divinity will move inside to take DW 40's place. I have seen ALL four of LSU's starting LBs make someone's All SEC team. Tigers will all right at LB. Not as good as the secondary but, still better than most of the SEC and country.
Divinity will move inside to take DW 40's place. I have seen ALL four of LSU's starting LBs make someone's All SEC team. Tigers will all right at LB. Not as good as the secondary but, still better than most of the SEC and country.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:11 pm to DawgsLife
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Gee....did you stop reading my post before seeing that I wrote that exact thing?
Some of you guys are the most selective readers I have ever seen....hope you enjoyed the gotcha moment that you didn't really get.
Do you have a point? LSU lost Devin White. OK, we know that.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:13 pm to RB10
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Shelvin and Ika at the nose changes this
Again, pretty big risk, especially with 2 guys with weight issues. But, at least there are dudes there, which is an improvement.
LSU's pass defense all around should be great, maybe the best in the country - my biggest concern would be run defense. It was pretty average last year and downright bad at other times, and most of that was with Devin White in the middle.
Both Alabama and LSU has some things that were flaws last year that I think you'd expect to improve based on personnel and experience (pass defense for Alabama, run defense for LSU). If both do, could be back to 2 elite defenses again.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:16 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Again, pretty big risk, especially with 2 guys with weight issues. But, at least there are dudes there, which is an improvement.
Well, LSU only had 1 with a weight issue last year, which is why Fehoko had to slide inside.
Ika and Shelvin should be able to give a solid 60 snaps between the two of them, and they will be off the field in most passing situations no matter what.
LSU is definitely in a better position this year than last on the defensive line. If Chaisson is healthy they’re in a much better position on the edge too. Divinity is a good linebacker, but he’s not an edge player.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:19 pm to RB10
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Well, LSU only had 1 with a weight issue last year
The other was Ika - though I know he's already shed a lot of weight.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:19 pm to 167back
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six of those dudes haven't played a down yet for uga.
Okay? Do you have any idea how many frehmen we play every year?
Your other LSU poster are saying the middle of your DLine will be greatly improved because of Ika....hmmmmm......seems he hasn't played a down, either, so I guess LSU's DLine won't be improved?
quote:And probably will do very well, but he simply won't be as good as White was. Just like we had a dropoff from Roquan, LSU will have a dropoff from losing White. They were special players.
Divinity will move inside to take DW 40's place.
quote:Using that metric, Georgia was better than most in the SEC and country....but we still missed Roquan.
Tigers will all right at LB. Not as good as the secondary but, still better than most of the SEC and country.
You guys seem to have selective reading skills, so let me carve out my point.
An LSU poster said Georgia couldn't possibly be a top defense because we lost a lot of production. I was merely pointing out that LSU lost a lot of production. now all the LSU fans are upset because I said you lost some production.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:21 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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The other was Ika - though I know he's already shed a lot of weight.
He’s a true freshman. The only true NT on the roster last year was Shelvin and he could only play 15-20 snaps because he was something like 40 lbs overweight.
ETA: supposedly Shelvin is in better shape and Ika, though heavier, is fit enough to give 30 snaps, if needed.
Shelvin could barely play consecutive plays last year. It was bad.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 1:23 pm
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