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re: Who is the worst AD in the SEC?
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:26 am to thirdlawson
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:26 am to thirdlawson
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Jay Jacobs has done a shite job
Yep. I personally think he is a moron.
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:52 am to Pavoloco83
As an outsider, I've never believed Jay Jacobs to be a "real" AD. I've always viewed him as simply being a "yes man" to guys like Lowder and Raines.
Jury is still out on Bill Battle, although the only hire he has made so far seems like a home run after year one.
Jury is still out on Bill Battle, although the only hire he has made so far seems like a home run after year one.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:59 am to BamaDude06
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Jury is still out on Bill Battle
Saban runs Bama.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 12:19 pm to Pavoloco83
It amazes me how so many people say Foley is the best because they look at UF winning at most sports and the back to back titles. Truth is that UF was winning in all sports prior to him getting the job. He hired Zook, Machen hired Meyer, got lucky with timing on Donovan and now hired Muschump (a guy with zero head coaching experience).
Gator football had one of the worst seasons in our history. Lost to Vandy at home, a feat that hadn't been done since Hitler was in charge. Lost to Ga Southern, a team most people couldn't point to on a map if it didn't have Ga in it's name.
Gator football (which pays for all the other sports) has been horrible the last few years, including Meyer's last (which Foley totally blew). Our offenses have been so pathetic the last 3 years that most fans rather stay home. We still don't have an indoor practice facility (cheap bastard), the Swamp is dilapidated and the O'Dome is old. Plus we took over as the poster child of crime in athletics. Serial killer Hernandez, rapist track star, felony arms collecting woman's basketball player, felony gymnast, Breaking into cars bball players, stolen laptops, "time to die" text, Barking at police dogs, stealing taco's, leaving babies in the car while going to strip clubs etc., etc. 44 arrest under Meyer, 14 under Muschamp. Freaking ridiculous, Rewriting the Fulmer cup. Get a grip on your athletic department Foley
Gator football had one of the worst seasons in our history. Lost to Vandy at home, a feat that hadn't been done since Hitler was in charge. Lost to Ga Southern, a team most people couldn't point to on a map if it didn't have Ga in it's name.
Gator football (which pays for all the other sports) has been horrible the last few years, including Meyer's last (which Foley totally blew). Our offenses have been so pathetic the last 3 years that most fans rather stay home. We still don't have an indoor practice facility (cheap bastard), the Swamp is dilapidated and the O'Dome is old. Plus we took over as the poster child of crime in athletics. Serial killer Hernandez, rapist track star, felony arms collecting woman's basketball player, felony gymnast, Breaking into cars bball players, stolen laptops, "time to die" text, Barking at police dogs, stealing taco's, leaving babies in the car while going to strip clubs etc., etc. 44 arrest under Meyer, 14 under Muschamp. Freaking ridiculous, Rewriting the Fulmer cup. Get a grip on your athletic department Foley
Posted on 3/9/14 at 12:21 pm to Korin
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Korin
Nonironic mention of Foley
Posted on 3/9/14 at 12:22 pm to Pavoloco83
Look, Jay Jacobs is a mouth-breathing idiot. Like I said, Cam and Gus have bought him time...
The football team was the WORST in the SEC in 2012...
The basketball team was the WORST in the SEC in 2013 and is 12th in 2014...Tony Barbee has a in-conference record of 18-50 since he arrived...wow.
All other programs have been in decline as well...HE IS AWFUL.
The football team was the WORST in the SEC in 2012...
The basketball team was the WORST in the SEC in 2013 and is 12th in 2014...Tony Barbee has a in-conference record of 18-50 since he arrived...wow.
All other programs have been in decline as well...HE IS AWFUL.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 12:32 pm to cornhat
No one would say he's the worst. He is in fact one of the best... BUT that doesn't mean there's not room for improvement, like HELLO our facilities. How the hell does Vandy have better facilities than UF?
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Nonironic mention of Foley
Posted on 3/9/14 at 12:37 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
Foley is one of, if not the best AD in the country. He spreads out the wealth pretty well within the athletic department, and doesn't just dump all the funds back into football. The only thing UF needs is better dorms for football players. An IPF isn't necessary. Basketball arena is getting a face lift.
Football is down a bit, but that is more so to do with coaches not putting players in the best position to be successful, specifically the most important position on the field, quarterback.
Football is down a bit, but that is more so to do with coaches not putting players in the best position to be successful, specifically the most important position on the field, quarterback.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 12:46 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
One thing about Foley is that he's all about the bottom line. They're raising money for O'Dome renovations, which will happen soon. I want a better baseball stadium for sure but I don't care about an indoor practice facility.
As an AD, I only care about Foley's ability to hire excellent coaches and keep the AD running at a high level. I'm not blaming him for some of our dumbass athletes or for last season. You can't say he got lucky with Donovan and then blast him for Muschamp and say Machen is responsible for Meyer. We have top notch teams in every sport and the budget that allows each team to recruit the best athletes.
Football sucked but I'm fine with giving Muschamp another year to right the ship.
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As an AD, I only care about Foley's ability to hire excellent coaches and keep the AD running at a high level. I'm not blaming him for some of our dumbass athletes or for last season. You can't say he got lucky with Donovan and then blast him for Muschamp and say Machen is responsible for Meyer. We have top notch teams in every sport and the budget that allows each team to recruit the best athletes.
Football sucked but I'm fine with giving Muschamp another year to right the ship.
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 12:51 pm to gatordmb89
Hunh? Are you Foley?
I talk to prospective college athletes all the time and I have heard several kids say that UF's facilities weren't all that. Many of these young kids want indoor facilities.
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This site looks not only at IPF's but also student lounges and top locker rooms. UF's not even in the top 25 of most lists. That's ludicrous.
Oh, the basketball arena renovations that Foley is still begging for donations???
I talk to prospective college athletes all the time and I have heard several kids say that UF's facilities weren't all that. Many of these young kids want indoor facilities.
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This site looks not only at IPF's but also student lounges and top locker rooms. UF's not even in the top 25 of most lists. That's ludicrous.
Oh, the basketball arena renovations that Foley is still begging for donations???
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An IPF isn't necessary
Posted on 3/9/14 at 12:59 pm to roadhouse
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Especially after insulting the fanbase last season
except for he didn't really insult them last year.
that was a two year old rant that suddenly popped up after years of nobody giving two shits about it.
clearly somebody at NU wants him gone but they aren't currently winning that battle.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 1:13 pm to cornhat
Well if that's all you care about then sure Foley's the best. But, the first thing I care about is the reputation of UF. Losing institutional control by having outrageous arrests by your student athletes (in all sports not just football), is first and foremost my concern. To have Real Sports do a piece on UF and have Bryant Gumbel say that UF should be investigated and banned on athletics for our record, should be your concern too.
The NY Times, the Boston Globe, Sports Illustrated, CBS have all written stories on UF's arrest problems. That has an effect on the overall reputation of the school. You can go back a decade and there's disturbing trends that show that our Athletic Department turns a blind eye, which essentially condones the conduct.
I won't even go into facilities because that's a distant 2nd for me. I won't even go into giving Urban Meyer a $1.5 million bonus as he walked out the door or reupping Muschamp's contract which will cost the AD $6 million if they fire him next year. Or buying out Brent Pease $1 mill, etc., etc. No wonder we can't keep up with other facilities.
I like Foley, I'm not calling for his head. He's done a great job (maybe the best in college athletics) BUT there is always room for improvement. To just blindly say he's the best in the business because we have a lot of successful sports is not addressing the real problems IMO.
The NY Times, the Boston Globe, Sports Illustrated, CBS have all written stories on UF's arrest problems. That has an effect on the overall reputation of the school. You can go back a decade and there's disturbing trends that show that our Athletic Department turns a blind eye, which essentially condones the conduct.
I won't even go into facilities because that's a distant 2nd for me. I won't even go into giving Urban Meyer a $1.5 million bonus as he walked out the door or reupping Muschamp's contract which will cost the AD $6 million if they fire him next year. Or buying out Brent Pease $1 mill, etc., etc. No wonder we can't keep up with other facilities.
I like Foley, I'm not calling for his head. He's done a great job (maybe the best in college athletics) BUT there is always room for improvement. To just blindly say he's the best in the business because we have a lot of successful sports is not addressing the real problems IMO.
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I only care about Foley's ability to hire excellent coaches and keep the AD running at a high level
This post was edited on 3/9/14 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 3/9/14 at 1:16 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
UF arrests are down the past couple of years.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 1:21 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
Name a program that puts in a brand new players lounge/locker room every single year. UF just redid everything in '08, I believe. Like I said above, all the money isn't dumped right back into the football program each yr.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 1:31 pm to gatordmb89
I assume you meant to say the past couple of months???
Have you seen the arrest records of 2013?
There seems to be a bit of a lull (fingers crossed) the past half year but I wouldn't go on record and say that things are improving. Especially after one of our best woman basketball players just got arrested for home invasion robbery.
Have you seen the arrest records of 2013?
There seems to be a bit of a lull (fingers crossed) the past half year but I wouldn't go on record and say that things are improving. Especially after one of our best woman basketball players just got arrested for home invasion robbery.
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UF arrests are down the past couple of years.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 1:42 pm to gatordmb89
I never said anything about putting in a new lounge/locker room every year? I never ever said it was all about the football program.
UF's overall athletic facilities are generally NOT ranked in the top 25 of college programs. You will not see UF at the top of any list when it comes to facilities. So a better statement would be that "the money isn't dumped right back into the athletic program".
Maybe that's not important to most fans?
UF's overall athletic facilities are generally NOT ranked in the top 25 of college programs. You will not see UF at the top of any list when it comes to facilities. So a better statement would be that "the money isn't dumped right back into the athletic program".
Maybe that's not important to most fans?
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Name a program that puts in a brand new players lounge/locker room every single year. UF just redid everything in '08, I believe. Like I said above, all the money isn't dumped right back into the football program each yr.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 1:52 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
My bad. I was thinking your argument was centered around football. I can't really speak for programs outside of the big 3+golf and track.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 2:04 pm to gatordmb89
It's hard to blame Foley for crazy arse college athletes but a serial killer, admitted rapist, female weapons arms dealer, etc., is freaking out of control. I'm crossing my fingers when I read the news.
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My bad. I was thinking your argument was centered around football. I can't really speak for programs outside of the big 3+golf and track.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 2:13 pm to gohogs141
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He hired a football coach who went to BCS bowls and was an NFL factory.
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He hired them with very impressive resumes,
Posted on 3/9/14 at 2:19 pm to KCM0Tiger
Just mentioning Jeremy Foley is ludicrous. I Won't even waste time on why that's stupid.
Hamilton is GOAT for worst AD. He deserves some posthumous handclap for his past efforts.
Pete Boone isnt mentioned enough. Freeze was a great hire but man do y'all remember how bad it got before they hired him? Archie and the Fed Ex dude just essentially did his job for him. They were at one time paying Nutt, Orgeron and Freeze at the same time, maybe even cutcliffe too. Terrible contract structuring. With that said, he saved his bacon with freeze.
To me its Jay Jacobs and it's not close. Chizz was a monumentally bad hire. If he didn't pay Cam $180k, the chizz era would've been similar to the Orgeron era at ole miss.
Hamilton is GOAT for worst AD. He deserves some posthumous handclap for his past efforts.
Pete Boone isnt mentioned enough. Freeze was a great hire but man do y'all remember how bad it got before they hired him? Archie and the Fed Ex dude just essentially did his job for him. They were at one time paying Nutt, Orgeron and Freeze at the same time, maybe even cutcliffe too. Terrible contract structuring. With that said, he saved his bacon with freeze.
To me its Jay Jacobs and it's not close. Chizz was a monumentally bad hire. If he didn't pay Cam $180k, the chizz era would've been similar to the Orgeron era at ole miss.
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