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re: White Student Union formed @ AU

Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by Vander
Member since Oct 2012
323 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:43 pm to
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No, I really don't. Texas A&M isn't city hall. Why should A&M allow everybody access to their facilities to spew their nonsense?

What's your feeling about A&M students turning out in massive numbers to block the Westboro Baptist Church from protesting a funeral? Westboro Baptist Church surely has the same 1st Amendment rights as Spencer, right?


Westboro should be allowed to speak the same as any BLM, antifa, etc. speaker that has radical views provided they aren't inciting violence. A&M and other public universities cannot legally disallow people to use their facilities due to the 1st amendment and them being public universities. A university like Vanderbilt on the other hand, can do whatever the hell they want.

Keep in mind that I'm explicitly speaking about the university here. The students in turn can then exercise their right to free speech and protest as much as they want so long as they are not infringing upon the Speaker's right to speak through the uses of violence or intimidation.

The A&M students blocking the Westboro Baptist church is a classic example of a non-violent protest. That's exactly how it should be done and the university was never involved in that at all. It was purely student led.

I guarantee that antifa is going to show up and they are going to get violent. There are going to be riots on Auburn's campus, which feeds right into Spencer's goals.

Edit - My question to you is, why do you believe that free speech should be limited to only those people that you agree with?
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 2:44 pm
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:57 pm to
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Edit - My question to you is, why do you believe that free speech should be limited to only those people that you agree with?


I don't believe any such thing, I just don't see how the 1st Amendment applies here. Yeah, yeah, A&M is a public institution. But that doesn't mean they can't have rules concerning who may use their facilities. That's not what the 1st Amendment is about. If the A&M campus cops followed Spencer around the county and prevented him from speaking *anywhere*, I'd get it. My guess is that your city government in Houston does similar things with city-owned facilities. And they should.
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:34 pm to
Would you think a photo of a black person speaking to a camera and someone sucker punching him funny?

What about you? I mean it's cool right, just conceal my face and cold cock you?

I think we should do that. Be hilarious.
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

I don't believe any such thing, I just don't see how the 1st Amendment applies here. Yeah, yeah, A&M is a public institution. But that doesn't mean they can't have rules concerning who may use their facilities. That's not what the 1st Amendment is about. If the A&M campus cops followed Spencer around the county and prevented him from speaking *anywhere*, I'd get it. My guess is that your city government in Houston does similar things with city-owned facilities. And they should.


You know by that line of reasoning, a state legislature would be within their rights to fire any and all public university employees who took a stand on issues they disagreed with.

You know, like global warming say. But I forget.

The first amendment is about what you want it to be, when you want it to be about be so. And you will conveniently see it another way when that is to your advantage.

And what's most special, is that you will see no hypocrisy in it.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
6397 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 1:54 pm to
Spencer's event has been cancelled.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

Would you think a photo of a black person speaking to a camera and someone sucker punching him funny?

If it was a racist piece of shite like Spencer then yes, it would be hilarious. I could watch a fricking Nazi get punched all day long.
quote:

I think we should do that. Be hilarious.

I think you should go for it.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24937 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 2:22 pm to
Very weird in this country that we can't come to a consensus on hating Nazi's.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 2:25 pm to
I just got an email saying th Spencer event has been cancelled because of concerns for student safety.

I try and stay busy and out of that kind of stuff, I'm sure it has to do with this.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:28 pm to


Whatda fuq? That deal isnt going to go well.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22539 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:50 pm to
I understand AU not wanting a protest on their hands
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

You know by that line of reasoning, a state legislature would be within their rights to fire any and all public university employees who took a stand on issues they disagreed with.


Who got fired? But it isn't comparable, anyway. Unless some sort of ethics violations are involved, the state legislature would (and should) be in a world of hurt in your example.

quote:

The first amendment is about what you want it to be,


Well, no. Not really. It seems pretty clear to me.

quote:

Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Nobody is "abridging the freedom of speech" with the new rules at A&M.
Posted by NDonahue
Member since Apr 2016
1053 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:58 pm to
Sorry but it's pathetic that AU cancelled Spencer's event. PC bull****.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 5:58 pm
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

If it was a racist piece of shite like Spencer then yes, it would be hilarious. I could watch a fricking Nazi get punched all day long.


Hmmm, I looked up your profile.

You live in Ouray, Colorado right? (guessing that fact goes with your sig)

That's an interesting town.

" Races in Ouray, CO (2010)
Ouray races chart
895 89.5%White alone
82 8.2%Hispanic
10 1.0%Two or more races
80 .8%Asian alone
40 .4%American Indian alone
10 .1%Black alone


Read more: LINK ;

Now presumably you went to Kennesaw State.

But you wind up in Ouray, which is about as whitetopia as it gets.

Heck, do you even get Chinese tourists? Reading the blurb your tourists and Burning Man attendees are the same set.

So why aren't you in Ferguson, MO? Memphis? Birmingham? Detroit? Atlanta even?

Why don't you quit posting until you start to keep it real? After all the snow will be gone soon, you better hit the slopes while you can.

But wait. I bet you are best friends with ... all ten black people in Ouray. Never mind, I grok your bona fides.

And when you are passing the bong around later, take an extra deep hit for me.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 6:12 pm to
Too bad they don't make a swastika for a team because I suspect you'd be sporting that one.
Thanks for stalking me, but I spend time in CO, KC and most of my time in Atlanta. Want to guess my race next?
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

Sunbeam


What exactly are you arguing?

That Spencer guy is a shite bag and it is hilarious seeing that trash get decked

The guy who did it should have charges filed (assuming Spencer would press) and I wouldn't argue with it. Still hilarious though
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

You live in Ouray, Colorado right? (guessing that fact goes with your sig)

That's an interesting town.


This was a bad post and you should feel bad.
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

This was a bad post and you should feel bad.


Why? What was untrue about it?

And as for the mentat, DuncanIdaho, my guess is he is as white... as a snowflake.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 6:54 pm to
You're guessing someone is a racist based on where they live? Are you retarded?
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

And as for the mentat, DuncanIdaho, my guess is he is as white... as a snowflake.

White or not (and you don't have a goddamn clue), I have every right to protest a fricking Nazi at my Alma Mater.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

Are you retarded?

No, but I'm guessing this is either Richard Spencer himself or a big fan of his.
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