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Which ranking system do you agree with more: CFP Committee or BCS (if it existed today)
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:41 pm
College Football Playoff Rankings
1 Clemson
2 Auburn
3 Oklahoma
4 Wisconsin
5 Alabama
6 Georgia
7 Miami
8 Ohio State
9 Penn State
10 USC
11 TCU
12 Stanford
13 Washington
14 UCF
15 Notre Dame
16 Michigan State
17 LSU
18 Washington State
19 Oklahoma State
20 Memphis
21 Northwestern
22 Virginia Tech
23 Mississippi State
24 NC State
25 Fresno State
BCS Proxy Rankings (With AP Poll in place of Harris Poll)
1. Clemson
2. Wisconsin
3. Oklahoma
4. Auburn
5. Georgia
6. Alabama
7. Miami (FL)
8. Ohio St
9. UCF
10. Penn St
11. USC
12. TCU
13. Washington
14. Notre Dame
15. Stanford
16. Memphis
17. Michigan St
18. LSU
19. Oklahoma St
20. Northwestern
21. Virginia Tech
22. Washington St
23. Michigan
24. South Florida
25. Mississippi St
1 Clemson
2 Auburn
3 Oklahoma
4 Wisconsin
5 Alabama
6 Georgia
7 Miami
8 Ohio State
9 Penn State
10 USC
11 TCU
12 Stanford
13 Washington
14 UCF
15 Notre Dame
16 Michigan State
17 LSU
18 Washington State
19 Oklahoma State
20 Memphis
21 Northwestern
22 Virginia Tech
23 Mississippi State
24 NC State
25 Fresno State
BCS Proxy Rankings (With AP Poll in place of Harris Poll)
1. Clemson
2. Wisconsin
3. Oklahoma
4. Auburn
5. Georgia
6. Alabama
7. Miami (FL)
8. Ohio St
9. UCF
10. Penn St
11. USC
12. TCU
13. Washington
14. Notre Dame
15. Stanford
16. Memphis
17. Michigan St
18. LSU
19. Oklahoma St
20. Northwestern
21. Virginia Tech
22. Washington St
23. Michigan
24. South Florida
25. Mississippi St
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:43 pm to Bench McElroy
Not a ton of difference there but I always thought the BCS was a pretty decent rating system. Would much prefer it to 10 random people sitting in a room.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:01 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Would much prefer it to 10 random people sitting in a room.
Hardly random. A few that seem to be favorites, unless they just lose, have their AD, or former coach sitting on the board.
A one loss Miami is not going in ahead of a one loss Ohio State, even if their SOS is tougher.
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:02 pm to Bench McElroy
Just looking at the top 8 since that’s all that matters, BCS
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:14 pm to Bench McElroy
I like CFP. It doesn't include dumbass, biased AP.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:17 pm to Bench McElroy
frick the BCS.
frick a 4 team playoff.
8 teams is where it's at.
P5 conference champs plus 3 at large.
Cut out these bullshite cupcake games.
Done.
frick a 4 team playoff.
8 teams is where it's at.
P5 conference champs plus 3 at large.
Cut out these bullshite cupcake games.
Done.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:23 pm to TchPowDog
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I like CFP. It doesn't include dumbass, biased AP.
Neither did the BCS after 2004.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:24 pm to Bench McElroy
BCS
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:01 pm to JesusQuintana
How does UGA get ranked above Bama?
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:40 pm to starsandstripes
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How does UGA get ranked above Bama?
Sos
Their wins over GT and ND
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:52 pm to Bench McElroy
I opened this thread assuming I was going to think BCS was better.
However, seeing little difference except Auburn (who has played a likely unprecedented three different teams that have been ranked #1 and gone 2-1 in those games) being ranked behind Wisconsin (who has played 1 team at the bottom of the Top25 all season) in the BCS poll changed my mind.
Not much difference but that the committee did correct the computers/polls on that seems to better reflect the quality of opponents and actual games played.
However, seeing little difference except Auburn (who has played a likely unprecedented three different teams that have been ranked #1 and gone 2-1 in those games) being ranked behind Wisconsin (who has played 1 team at the bottom of the Top25 all season) in the BCS poll changed my mind.
Not much difference but that the committee did correct the computers/polls on that seems to better reflect the quality of opponents and actual games played.
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 12:09 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:58 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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P5 conference champs plus 3 at large.
should add stipulation that conference champ has no more than 3 losses. 2 would be preferable but I could see the SEC of a few years ago beating each other up to a solid 3 loss champion. No team with 4 losses deserves to be in an 8 team playoff regardless of conference champ
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:02 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Would much prefer it to 10 random people sitting in a room.
The committee makes zero sense to me.
A fricking committee?
This is college football not the UN.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:03 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Would much prefer it to 10 random people sitting in a room picking bowls on who brings the most profit and travels the best
FIFY
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:05 am to CBandits82
BCS formula for top 6
Seeds #1 & #2 get byes
Seeds #1 & #2 get byes
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:09 am to Hangit
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A one loss Miami is not going in ahead of a one loss Ohio State, even if their SOS is tougher.
Ohio State has 2 losses. A 1 loss Miami would be ACC Champ, beating Clemson. They would be in.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 7:16 am to AlaCowboy
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Ohio State has 2 losses
I know that. I was speaking in general terms, from any given year. The media was pushing USC, Notre Dame, and Ohio State until they lost.
A former ND coach is on the committee. tOSU's AD is on the committee. When the committee was first formed it had USC's AD on it.
Given that all was equal, the school with the big name and committee ties is going in before the equal school with no political clout. It is transparent and any college football fan can see through it.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 7:22 am to wm72
The computers could only be accurate after the season was over. They are usually pretty close after all is said and done.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 7:25 am to SummerOfGeorge
BCS ranking system would not bother me if it was for the top four or top six, tbh.
As far as the committee.
I said this before. Even though I am an AU fan, I cannot watch teams like Wisconsin play or Ohio State play and think they are better than Alabama.
Yet, my feeling is they will find a way to get Ohio State in, for political reasons.
The created a precedent to get them in last year. I think they will create a precedent that runs in direct contrast to that this year to get them in again.
It is bullshite, but I think Alabama fans better prepare for the possibility that a 1 loss Alabama team, who lost to the number 2 team in the country, will get jumped by a team that got whupped and home and embarrassed by Iowa.
As far as the committee.
I said this before. Even though I am an AU fan, I cannot watch teams like Wisconsin play or Ohio State play and think they are better than Alabama.
Yet, my feeling is they will find a way to get Ohio State in, for political reasons.
The created a precedent to get them in last year. I think they will create a precedent that runs in direct contrast to that this year to get them in again.
It is bullshite, but I think Alabama fans better prepare for the possibility that a 1 loss Alabama team, who lost to the number 2 team in the country, will get jumped by a team that got whupped and home and embarrassed by Iowa.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 7:29 am to XenScott
I am of the opinion you need to go to 8 no matter how you choose them. What happened to Penn State last season shouldn't happen...I also see the argument for why you'd want Ohio St. in last season since they beat 3 teams ranked in the final top 10. A similar argument could be made for Clemson if they happened to lose this weekend.
Make the conference championship mean something by allowing all 5 in...I really don't care if one of the teams has lost 5 games. That still leaves 3 spots for teams who most folks realize probably have done something to deserve a shot. It would also still generate plenty of talk about the 4th team left out and whether they got hosed.
I also believe it would help the sport if a non-Power 5 ranked at a certain spot like 12 or something was guaranteed a shot.
Make the conference championship mean something by allowing all 5 in...I really don't care if one of the teams has lost 5 games. That still leaves 3 spots for teams who most folks realize probably have done something to deserve a shot. It would also still generate plenty of talk about the 4th team left out and whether they got hosed.
I also believe it would help the sport if a non-Power 5 ranked at a certain spot like 12 or something was guaranteed a shot.
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